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Subject: Re: Braingames/Chessbase disinformation reigns

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:36:56 08/09/01

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On August 09, 2001 at 11:29:30, Christopher A. Morgan wrote:

>
>The following direct quotes are taken from the Braingames site, sponsor of the
>Kramnik v. Deep Fritz match.  Disinformation reigns.  Disinformation is
>information that is intended to mislead.
>
>?Chess champion to play 'smartest' supercomputer.?
>
>? ?Put it this way, the Deep Blue supercomputer that beat Kasparov in 1997
>weighed 1.4 tons, was over 6ft high and needed 20 people to keep it running. The
>new Deep Fritz can run on a laptop. Even on a fast desktop machine it will be
>able to achieve the playing level of any incarnation of Deep Blue. I?ll let you
>draw your own conclusions as to what this is going to do to Kramnik.? Frederic
>Friedel of ChessBase.?


Note that this is the same guy that told Garry Kasparov how to prepare to beat
Deep Blue in 1997.  Full of good advice and factual statements as you can see.



>
>
>?There is no guarantee, however, that Deep Fritz 7, designed by computer and
>chess specialists, is indeed the strongest chess computer ever created.?
>
>Deep Fritz is a chess program, of course, not a ?chess computer.?  There is no
>mention whatsoever of the hardware to be used in the match and/or its comparison
>to Deep Blue, and for good reason, there is no comparison between the two.  Deep
>Fritz is a child?s toy compared to the last Deep Blue.
>
>Supercomputer?  Since when has a bundle of 8 PC microprocessors been considered
>a supercomputer?   That Deep Fritz can achieve ?the playing level of any
>incarnation of Deep Blue? on a fast desktop machine is a completely false
>statement on its face, by many magnitudes,  and Friedel knows it.


Of course it is false.  an 8-way box has about as much in common with a
super-computer as does my calculator.  Both are digital, but that is where
the simularities stop.  This is basically marketing nonsense spun to justify
the huge prize fund and attract interest.  If it blows up in his face, he is
going to look pretty silly.




>
>Braingames? and ChessBase?s complete contempt of the public?s intelligence and
>ability to determine the facts regarding the relative strengths of the
>respective hardware, all long known publicly, is a disgrace to the chess
>community.
>
>
>
>
>On August 09, 2001 at 09:31:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 09, 2001 at 07:12:11, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>Is really Deep Fritz running in 8 processors stronger that Deep Blue (97)???
>>>
>>>
>>>I hear that Deep Fritz 7 will see 5 millions nodes per second. It is enough to
>>>beat the World Champion???
>>>
>>>I think that if Deep Fritz could see 500 millions nodes per second, Kramnik will
>>>be dead.
>>>
>>>And why i find an article that said that Deep Fritz 7 recently beat Deep Blue,
>>>the same machine that beat Kasparov in 1997.  It is true?????  Where i can find
>>>the games??
>>>
>>
>>No it is not true. It is the most atrocious bit of marketing hyperbole I have
>>seen in many years.  Perhaps IBM will take notice and then ChessBase will have
>>a different kind of competition to handle.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>>
>>>Tanya D.



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