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Subject: Re: Does the New SSDF List Reflect the Real Strength of Programs?

Author: Derrick Daniels

Date: 01:51:29 10/24/01

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On October 24, 2001 at 03:59:39, Joshua Lee wrote:

>On October 24, 2001 at 01:18:29, Kevin Stafford wrote:
>
>>If you are commenting on how the ssdf's ratings compare to FIDE ratings, there
>>is no real sense of 'accurate'. The pools are entirely separate, and therefore
>>attempts at comparison between the two are meaningless. It is for this reason
>>that it is impossible for one list to be 'underrated', because the two lists
>>have nothing to do with one another.
>>
>>-Kevin
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I hate to open up a can of worms here, but it would seem that recent results
>>>suggest that the SSDF list is Pretty Accurate. Tiger performed at the 2700 level
>>>on hardware much inferior to that used by the SSDF. That fact may suggest that
>>>the List is Underrated. Deep Fritz result against the Veteran Grandmaster Robert
>>>Huebner adds further validity. I am not sure what Rebel's performance rating
>>>with Vanderwiel is, but I am sure it is over 2600, this achieved on hardware
>>>slower then that used by the SSDF. I commend the SSDF for doing an excellent
>>>Job, Perhaps more games against Humans will continue to collaborate their fine
>>>work. Maybe in the future SSDF will have to add points to the current list,
>>>instead of subtracting!
>
>
>Subtract This ... Deep Fritz's Performance on a Quad 500 (about 3 times faster
>than SSDF's Last Hardware the K6-2 450) was Close to the Rating given for the
>Much Slower Hardware.  However Other Programs Performed Higher than their SSDF
>rating, I found it impossible to Relate the two You can't subtract for one
>Program to Get the Rating for All others. But if you really want to you should
>probably Subtract by atleast 200 points C'mon Deep Fritz on a 1200 is nowhere
>near as Strong as Alekhine But his Rating was 2690 ....It is safe to say i
>believe All the Top Programs are 2400-2550 in Strength and If anyone out there
>doesn't believe that Play 30+ games on the Fastest Hardware against a 2700 Rated
>Human.


  Well you may be aware that many Computer experts here have said that Hardware
doesn't make as much difference when playing Humans, Furthermore how do you
explain Rebel and Tigers results, they each match the 2700 performance rating of
Deep Fritz on the Quad, and they ran on hardware much slower then the 1200mhz of
the SSDF, I believe they used a Pent3 866.



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