Author: Mark Young
Date: 05:32:02 11/08/01
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On November 08, 2001 at 07:54:59, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >On November 08, 2001 at 06:59:22, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > >>On November 08, 2001 at 06:35:18, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>Can anyone here beat the "best" prog in 40/120 without using anti comp >>>strtegies? on atleast an Athlon 1000? >>> >>>I have seen a lot of post where people draw the comps when trying to do nothing >>>but that, but i am yet to see someone not using anti comp strategies beat them >>>in a 40/120 on fast hardware..... anyone up for the challenge? >> >>What's the point of not playing anticomputer strategies? >> >>-- >>GCP > >The point being: 1. A GM of conciderable strength would not play anti comp. You don't know the history of computers Vs. GM players. This is not correct. [Event "Chess Meeting 2000 Super"] [Site "Dortmund"] [Date "2000.07.12"] [Round "5"] [White "Kramnik, Vladimir"] [Black "Junior 6"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D00"] [WhiteElo "2770"] [PlyCount "65"] [EventDate "2000.07.07"] 1. d4 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. Bd3 e6 4. f4 Be7 5. Nf3 c5 6. c3 O-O 7. Nbd2 Ng4 8. Qe2 c4 9. Bc2 f5 10. Rg1 Nc6 11. h3 Nf6 12. g4 Ne4 13. Qg2 g6 14. Qh2 Kh8 15. h4 Nxd2 16. Bxd2 fxg4 17. Ng5 Qe8 18. h5 gxh5 19. Rxg4 Rf6 20. Rh4 Rh6 21. O-O-O a5 22. Rh1 b5 23. Bd1 Ra7 24. Bxh5 Qf8 25. e4 Bd8 26. f5 b4 27. Bg6 Rxh4 28. Qxh4 bxc3 29. bxc3 Bf6 30. Qxh7+ Rxh7 31. Rxh7+ Kg8 32. Bf7+ Qxf7 33. Rxf7 1-0 [Event "Chess Meeting 2000 Super"] [Site "Dortmund"] [Date "2000.07.15"] [Round "8"] [White "Junior 6"] [Black "Piket, Jeroen"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "B15"] [BlackElo "2649"] [PlyCount "68"] [EventDate "2000.07.07"] 1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 d5 5. h3 a6 6. Bf4 Nf6 7. e5 Nfd7 8. Qd2 e6 9. Bg5 Qb6 10. O-O-O h6 11. Be3 Qc7 12. h4 b5 13. Bf4 Nb6 14. a3 N8d7 15. Kb1 a5 16. Na2 Qa7 17. g4 Bf8 18. c3 Ba6 19. Qe1 Nc4 20. Bd2 Be7 21. Nc1 Ndb6 22. h5 g5 23. Na2 Kd7 24. Bc1 Rhb8 25. Ka1 b4 26. Nd2 Nxd2 27. Bxd2 Bxf1 28. Rxf1 Nc4 29. Rb1 b3 30. Nc1 Bxa3 31. Qd1 Qb6 32. bxa3 b2+ 33. Ka2 bxc1=N+ 34. Qxc1 Qxb1+ 0-1 >2.If a program has a fault which can be taken advantage of by using anti comp >strategies making it look like a 2000 player there is no point in playing it. You don't know if anti-computer play will work until you try it. ChessTiger did not have any problem with anti-computer play...that resulted in a loss when it scored a TPR of 2788. >just like using the same line to beat the comp to determine it's strength. >3. Is anyone here capable of beating the comp under these conditions?? Anticomputer play should be used if the player wishes. You don't know if anti-computer play will work or not. Besides there are many types of anti-computer play, and it would not be fair to claim or not claim anti-computer play if the human wins. I don't think anyone here can beat ChessTiger 14 when they don't have access to the program and opening book that will be used. > >Regards >Jonas
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