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Subject: Re: Can anyone here beat the "best" prog in 40/120

Author: Christopher R. Dorr

Date: 07:31:41 11/08/01

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That *is* the point. I know every master in my area. When I play one who is weak
in the ending, I try to exploit that, just as he knows me, and tries to exploit
my weaknesses. When I play Tiger, I know it is relatively weak if I can lock the
pawns (as an example). To you, this is 'anti-computer' play. To me, I am playing
it just like I would *anybody else*; going after it's weaknesses and avoid it's
strengths. To me, that is normal chess.

Regards,

Chris


On November 08, 2001 at 10:09:35, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On November 08, 2001 at 10:04:32, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>
>>1. Of *course* a GM would play anti-comp. Only his 'anti-comp' stuff might be
>>different from *your* anti-comp stuff. You think that Kasparov wouldn't play
>>'anti-Anand' stuff that is tailored to Anand? Of course he would. Just as he
>>would play 'Anti-Fritz' stuff when playing Fritz.
>>
>>2. Sure there is a point. if I can make the computer play like a 2000, then the
>>computer is *not* a GM. Do you think there is *any* way I could make Kramnik
>>look like a 2000? If the point is to evaluate the computer *as an opponent*,
>>then the weaknesses of that opponent are fair game.
>>
>>3. Maybe, but then the result is meaningless. Just as meaningless as asking 'Is
>>anyone here capable of playing a King's Gambit and sacrificing a full piece to
>>mate toe computer's black king on h8?' and then trying to extrapolate that
>>information to something else.
>>
>>The simple issue is 'Can anybody here beat the 'best' program on a 1 GHz box at
>>40/2?' Any other limitations artifically weaken the human, and make the test
>>meaningless.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>You missed the point: play the comp like you would anyone else!
>
>Regards
>Jonas



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