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Subject: Re: more examples for search-based stupidity

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:49:33 06/13/98

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On June 13, 1998 at 22:35:54, Hristo wrote:

>Hello Don!
>
>>...   Since I consider myself to be a scientist I will always
>>collect facts and definitions  and work within them.  ...
>
>What is the power of prediction that the total TACTICS method gives you
>?!
>It's not that good, is it !? If you are a scientist how can you stand,
>so firmly, behind a method which has such low level of "prediction" ...
>the current state of the chess programs has very little scientific
>value(for chess it self). It has much more comercial value !!!
>"My" program is stronger than "his" hence I know better !!! Bull ...
>nobody knows! Lets look at the facts, not with a microscope but with
>some understanding to what these facts mean. The facts point out that
>even if you manage to search 200 000 000 position per second you are
>still not even close to get to the bottom of the problem! Deal with this
>fact for a change!
>
>Hristo


then deal with this:  If I can search 200,000,000 nodes per second, I am
*one hell* of a lot closer to the "truth" about a position than a
program
that searches 5K nodes per second, no matter how you evaluate things.  I
won't be able to see to the end of the game, obviously, but I will see
*every* hole in your evaluation, and I'll shove a stick in each one
pain-
fully.  In chess, "rules of thumb" only take you so far.  How many times
is an isolated pawn weak?  strong?  immaterial?  Ditto for kingside
attacks
that fail, or succeed, or don't do either...

I'd rather go faster, and depend less on rules of thumb that I *know*
are
imperfect...  than to bet the farm on vague concepts that work here,
fail
there, and guarantee me that I can't play with someone like Kasparov.



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