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Subject: Re: Question about Bit storage

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:17:11 01/28/02

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On January 28, 2002 at 18:09:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 28, 2002 at 18:03:03, Les Fernandez wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2002 at 17:55:24, Scott Gasch wrote:
>>
>>>On January 28, 2002 at 17:48:48, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just curious to know what is the best being done now for storing a chess
>>>>position.  In the worse case scenario (castling right exists) it takes me 162
>>>>bits to store 32 pieces, color, location, side to move, castling, enpassant,
>>>>promotion, ce and pv.  Now if castling rights do not exist then the worse case
>>>>scenario for the above is 81 bits.  Much further reduction in bits/position is
>>>>possible but at the moment I am interested in the above.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>>Les
>>>
>>>How can you have a 162 bit requirement with castling rights and a 81 bit
>>>requirement without castling rights?  You're telling me you need 81 bits to
>>>store castling information?  Here's a breakthrough for you:
>>>
>>>0000 = no castling possible
>>>0001 = white can castle short
>>>0010 = white can castle long
>>>0100 = black can castle short
>>>1000 = black can castle long
>>>1111 = all castling possible
>>>
>>>Scott
>>
>>I am aware of how many bits you need for castling.  I did not say I needed 81
>>bits for castling I merely said that in positions that have no castling rights
>>that I need only 81 bits to store the position.  Before you challenge my bits
>>needed to store castling rights you might be more interested to know how does
>>one store the entire position using only 81 bits <S>.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>please explain how to store the position in 81 bits when castling doesn't
>matter.

See this word document, referenced below:
As Professor Clouseau once said, "And the mystery, she is solved":
ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/les/cp.doc

It's a word document.  Might get some revisions in the near future, but it
explains it well enough.

Here's another breakthrough which will reduce the 162 bits back to 81:
Have 6 files, one for each castling status.  Then, you need no bits, because the
castling status is implicit by the file type.





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