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Subject: Re: Kasparov Says Kramnick is Wrong That Fritz7 is Stronger then Deepblue

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 02:11:15 04/13/02

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On April 13, 2002 at 02:21:38, David Dory wrote:

>On April 13, 2002 at 00:37:45, Joe McCarro wrote:
>
>>
>>>Hsu and team had ALREADY MADE A WORLD CHAMP - DEEP THOUGHT. Then they re-did it
>>>with TWO more revisions, DB and Deeper Blue. Increasing it's hardware, which as
>>>has been mentioned, is the biggest factor in chess computer improvement in the
>>>past 20 years. (Try running Fritz on a real clunker CPU/system for a hoot!)
>>
>>Hardware:
>>Wasn't it borne out that the software that had very knowledgable selective
>>search made much greater gains with better hardware than the software that
>>wasn't as "knowledgable".   In other words, the programs with more of a brute
>>force approach experienced diminishing returns with faster hardware whereas
>>computers with allot of knowledge really took off with better hardware.  From
>>what I understand Fritz 7 has alot more knowledge built in unlike its earlier
>>versions.  Nobody really seems to know what knowledge was added to Deeper blue.
>>Maybe it had dimishing returns maybe not.
>
>Nope.
>
>All programs experience diminishing returns with greater depth. The programmers
>work harder and harder for a smaller increase in playing strength. Nevertheless,
>it is hardware not software, that has provided the largest increase in chess
>program strength in the last 20 years.

That is a myth.
You only have to take one look at the SSDF list to see there are significant
improvements from version to version on the same hardware.

-S.



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