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Subject: Re: Smirin match conclusion?!

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 03:22:31 04/30/02

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On April 30, 2002 at 04:44:41, Mark Young wrote:

>On April 29, 2002 at 12:04:09, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2002 at 07:14:39, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>I think we can make two conclusion, even if one game is played later:
>>>
>>>1) Motivated super GM can still beat all PC programs
>>>2) There isn't any program, which is specially good against humans
>>>
>>>Point 1) is actually good - there is still room for improvement, even if it's
>>>unnecessary for 99,9999% of chess players.
>>>Point 2) Fritz is as good as any program to play Kramnik. And with 8 CPU system
>>>it can at least make interesting games.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Number 1 is not true:
>>Junior and Hiarcs have not lost a game to GM Smirin.  Fritz and Rebel did not
>>get to play GM Smirin.  I guess guess you you could say that the motivated 2700+
>>Super GM can win one game against Shredder and Tiger.
>>
>>Point 2 is not true:
>>Rebel, Junior and Hiarcs all have euqal or positve records against 2700+ GM and
>>Fritz did not play against the 2700 GM
>
>
>I don't understand his match conclusions?
>This was not 1 computer program playing, it is better to understand the match as
>it was, 5 matches played vs the same human Grandmaster.
>
>1. The Hiarcs 8 match was evenly played, and +1 vs Gulko.
>
>2. The Junior 7 match was 1 draw, 1 null game were the computer's position was
>won, even score vs GM Gulko
>
>3. The Shredder match was 1 loss, 1 draw, and an even score vs GM Gulko.
>
>4. Chess Tiger match was a joke. It did not play...
>
>5. The Gambit Tiger(anti-human) match. 1 draw.
>
>6. The Gambit Tiger(default) match. 1 loss.
>
>Conclusion: GM Smirin won match 3. GM Smirin should of lost match 2. GM Smirin
>drew match 1. GM Smirin drew match 5 in a one game match, and won match 6 in a 1
>game match.
>
>Conclusion #2 PC programs have once again shown they can play at a High GM
>level.
>
>Conclusion #3. PC programs need to lose the human element. SEE match 2 & 5

Mark,
I think that the final right result if Junior will win tomorrow, should be
4.5-4.5 ,in consideration of the fact that DJ won de facto against Smirin in the
nulled game.

Otello







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