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Subject: Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm??

Author: Ingo Lindam

Date: 09:59:11 12/11/02

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On December 11, 2002 at 12:55:16, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On December 11, 2002 at 02:10:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2002 at 19:54:24, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2002 at 19:46:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>>I do not believe that it is possible to solve it with the hardware of today so
>>>>I am not going to try.
>>>>It is not a proof that it is impossible to solve it.
>>>
>>>Suppose that you claim a mate in n.  In what way will you prove it?
>>>
>>>I will take an opponent position with a different result.  You will have to
>>>prove it is unreachable.
>>>
>>>There is no way to do that without solving the nodes of the tree.
>>>
>>>Consider some mate in n claim that you make.  I show you a game between two
>>>superGM's that follows a different path.  You will have to prove that each of
>>>the nodes is unreachable by an opponent.
>>>
>>>There is no way to do that without solving the nodes of the tree.
>>>
>>>It seems very clear to me.
>>
>>No
>>
>>For example for fortress positions it may be possible t prove no mate in n
>>
>>[D]7k/8/6KP/7P/7P/7P/4B2P/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>There is no mate in n for white
>
>Of course, this can be proven with a tree.

I still don't see why 'it can be done with'
should be the same as 'has to be done with'

ingo




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