Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:08:52 01/13/03
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On January 13, 2003 at 12:00:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 13, 2003 at 11:05:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 13, 2003 at 08:51:47, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On January 12, 2003 at 22:32:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>I have every game Crafty ever >>>>played. >>>> >>> >>>:) >>> >>>(...) >>> >>>[sic!] >>> >>>:) >>> >>> >>>Rolf Tueschen >> >>I am not sure what you are trying to say. ICC emails me _every_ game played. >>When I >>lost all the files several years ago, ICC re-sent me every Crafty game in their >>database, which >>got almost all except for some against low-rated players. >> >>Vincent's games are certainly in there... >> >>The games were on my ftp site, I'll see if I can get them back. > >Please do it. Would be fun for those who have no ICC. I have part of the >database but with those terrible n-versions because of earlier broken contact >etc. Of course it's also funny to know who lost contact, in what position and >how often. Anyway, almost all lost almost all their games... > >The meaning above was just a result of careful reading and common sense. Of >course I know what you meant. It was also a broad hint to be not too harsh with >Vincent and his version of logical reasoning. It's not so easy after all. I >prefer that he makes mistakes instead of behaving like a coward and hiding >behind a wall silence which is a general misbehaviour so to speak. Perhaps I >misinterprete your sayings but it seems as if you would take it as a form of >character defect, but to me it's simply lack of basic knowledge. - However I can >easily talk when I am not one of Vincent's goals. Nevertheless I would like to >see you in the role of the friendly Dr who shows patience to all no matter how >deeply they are mistaken. - Both tasks need a wise man: helping laymen and also >explaining the basics to already big "experts in a narrow field". In both cases >I see great importance in the description of interdependencies with the history >of computer chess and the basis of real science. I would also say that correct >style of debate is nothing that we are born with and common sense is often >illogical. If not for Vincent it would surely help the silent readers if all >kind of errors would simply be corrected without a personal reference. That >would send the message, here you can also make mistakes, but you are not >executed afterwards. Without mistakes many things could not be explained, so >that we had to invent them if they wouldn't exist by nature. Excuse the sermon, >we have a mountain of snow and I couldn't catch some fresh air yet. :) > >Rolf Tueschen My only complaint, at the moment, is that Vincent has totally ignored my challenge of his nonsense. On ICC he has been suggesting that he has someone that would be perfect to play 1997 crafty. When _his_ statement here was about _him_ playing... Is it any wonder it is so hard to communicate with him? > > > >>> >>>> >>>>I notice that you first open your mouth, then start trying to backtrack to >>>>get out of a deep hole, and then start making excuses... >>> >>>>No. _you_ said "I can easily beat 1997 programs." I say you are full >>>>of crap. Now's your chance to prove that you can do what you say you can >>>>do. I intend to prove you are as full of crap as a Christmas turkey.
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