Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 16:52:42 02/03/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 19:49:28, Sune Fischer wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 19:41:03, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 19:33:55, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On February 03, 2003 at 19:05:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>On February 03, 2003 at 18:54:54, Peter Hegger wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>...how is it that they now consistently play at the 2700-2800 level? Against >>>>>Kramnik (2810), against Bareev (2729), and now against Kasparov (2807), a >>>>>program is turning in a 2807 performance and very much _holding its own_ >>>>>Calling any modern program a 2500 player is akin to calling the above mentioned >>>>>super GM's 2500 players. >>>>>It also looks to me as though the SSDF list is getting closer to the reality of >>>>>the true state of program prowess than (admittedly) it use to be. >>>>>Any comments welcome. >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Peter >>>> >>>>A pity that you do not read. Show events are NOT a possible tool to calculate >>>>the strength. And hard competition doesn't exist. That's it. I still hold >>>>that comps are 2400 at best in fierce tournament chess. >>> >>>All top chess tournaments are show events, so is every superbowl match, in fact >>>every sport with spectators is a show event. You can't conclude from this that >>>what you are seeing is not real. >> >>You mix up what I said. Ok, if you want with spectators call it show event. But >>that was not what I meant. If you define all as show then we must find two new >>definitions for shows like now and simuls for instance and a term for fierce >>tournament chess! What I said was connected to real tournament chess WITH >>participation of comps. Hope this helps. >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >Okay I get it, I would like to see a broader range of opponents too but I don't >think DJ would perform _worse_ under those conditions. > >In this "show event" Kasparov and co. can focus on one single opponent entirely, > prepare each game optimally. >From game to game Kasparov will know more and more of his opponent, finding its >weaknesses. That should be an advantage for Kasparov, not the DJ team that, >according to the rules, can only change the opening book. > >-S. Yes. Of course. Alas, the mean computer experts have invented the 6 games "matches" and that is too short to exploit and harvest. Let them play 48 games with the same machine of course. Promissed? :) Rolf Tueschen
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