Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 16:49:28 02/03/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 19:41:03, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 19:33:55, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 19:05:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On February 03, 2003 at 18:54:54, Peter Hegger wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>...how is it that they now consistently play at the 2700-2800 level? Against >>>>Kramnik (2810), against Bareev (2729), and now against Kasparov (2807), a >>>>program is turning in a 2807 performance and very much _holding its own_ >>>>Calling any modern program a 2500 player is akin to calling the above mentioned >>>>super GM's 2500 players. >>>>It also looks to me as though the SSDF list is getting closer to the reality of >>>>the true state of program prowess than (admittedly) it use to be. >>>>Any comments welcome. >>>>Regards, >>>>Peter >>> >>>A pity that you do not read. Show events are NOT a possible tool to calculate >>>the strength. And hard competition doesn't exist. That's it. I still hold >>>that comps are 2400 at best in fierce tournament chess. >> >>All top chess tournaments are show events, so is every superbowl match, in fact >>every sport with spectators is a show event. You can't conclude from this that >>what you are seeing is not real. > >You mix up what I said. Ok, if you want with spectators call it show event. But >that was not what I meant. If you define all as show then we must find two new >definitions for shows like now and simuls for instance and a term for fierce >tournament chess! What I said was connected to real tournament chess WITH >participation of comps. Hope this helps. > >Rolf Tueschen Okay I get it, I would like to see a broader range of opponents too but I don't think DJ would perform _worse_ under those conditions. In this "show event" Kasparov and co. can focus on one single opponent entirely, prepare each game optimally. From game to game Kasparov will know more and more of his opponent, finding its weaknesses. That should be an advantage for Kasparov, not the DJ team that, according to the rules, can only change the opening book. -S.
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