Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 16:41:03 02/03/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 19:33:55, Sune Fischer wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 19:05:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On February 03, 2003 at 18:54:54, Peter Hegger wrote: >> >>> >>>...how is it that they now consistently play at the 2700-2800 level? Against >>>Kramnik (2810), against Bareev (2729), and now against Kasparov (2807), a >>>program is turning in a 2807 performance and very much _holding its own_ >>>Calling any modern program a 2500 player is akin to calling the above mentioned >>>super GM's 2500 players. >>>It also looks to me as though the SSDF list is getting closer to the reality of >>>the true state of program prowess than (admittedly) it use to be. >>>Any comments welcome. >>>Regards, >>>Peter >> >>A pity that you do not read. Show events are NOT a possible tool to calculate >>the strength. And hard competition doesn't exist. That's it. I still hold >>that comps are 2400 at best in fierce tournament chess. > >All top chess tournaments are show events, so is every superbowl match, in fact >every sport with spectators is a show event. You can't conclude from this that >what you are seeing is not real. You mix up what I said. Ok, if you want with spectators call it show event. But that was not what I meant. If you define all as show then we must find two new definitions for shows like now and simuls for instance and a term for fierce tournament chess! What I said was connected to real tournament chess WITH participation of comps. Hope this helps. Rolf Tueschen > >I don't know if Kasparov is playing his best, or if there are players better >suited to beat the comps. It doesn't change the fact that Garrys is having >problems with DJ here, playing real no-nonsense chess even. > >The Elo of a player is an average performance evaluation, it is not an upper >limit on what they can perform, and on average computers are damn tough. > >-S. > >>Rolf Tueschen
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