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Subject: Re: If comps are only 2500-2600 then....

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 16:33:55 02/03/03

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On February 03, 2003 at 19:05:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On February 03, 2003 at 18:54:54, Peter Hegger wrote:
>
>>
>>...how is it that they now consistently play at the 2700-2800 level? Against
>>Kramnik (2810), against Bareev (2729), and now against Kasparov (2807), a
>>program is turning in a 2807 performance and very much _holding its own_
>>Calling any modern program a 2500 player is akin to calling the above mentioned
>>super GM's 2500 players.
>>It also looks to me as though the SSDF list is getting closer to the reality of
>>the true state of program prowess than (admittedly) it use to be.
>>Any comments welcome.
>>Regards,
>>Peter
>
>A pity that you do not read.   Show events are NOT a possible tool to calculate
>the strength.   And hard competition doesn't exist.   That's it.   I still hold
>that comps are 2400 at best in fierce tournament chess.

All top  chess tournaments are show events, so is every superbowl match, in fact
every sport with spectators is a show event. You can't conclude from this that
what you are seeing is not real.

I don't know if Kasparov is playing his best, or if there are players better
suited to beat the comps. It doesn't change the fact that Garrys is having
problems with DJ here, playing real no-nonsense chess even.

The Elo of a player is an average performance evaluation, it is not an upper
limit on what they can perform, and on average computers are damn tough.

-S.

>Rolf Tueschen



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