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Subject: Re: Anyone else miss IBM mentality

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 22:52:42 02/07/03

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On February 08, 2003 at 01:38:26, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 08, 2003 at 01:29:21, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>To put it short, the DJ team are cowards.  I now more than ever miss the IBM
>>teams mentality,  the win by any cost attitude.
>>They were aggressive,  in their motives, and would never have accepted this
>>rediculous draw, ,ESPECIALLY in the final game, they'd want to see "IBM defeats
>>world champion"  not a friggin draw
>
>If the DJ team had a sure win, I am sure that they would have went for it.  It
>would have been stupid for them to plug on in hopes of a win, when they could
>safely claim to have tied the strongest player in the world.  If you think they
>should have continued at all costs, I think that is rather naive.  It's not a
>science experiment.  It's a money making carnival.  Why take an enormous risk
>when you have accomplished your goal?
>
>>Bring them back, Garry will have no choice but to play for a win this time
>>around, and he'll have too, a new improved Deep Blue would be a killer.
>
>Hsu would create 65536 chips that are 1024 times faster each.  It would be a
>whipping.  I don't even think it would be entertaining, unless you can't stand
>Kasparov.
>
That's a bit of an exaggeration!
IMO when Kasparov was at his best, 1992-93 no computer then or now or a Super
Deep Blue could have stopped him!

Machines are NOT better than the BEST!!

Terry
>BTW:
>This one's forced by repetition:
>
>[Event "IBM Kasparov vs. Deep Blue Rematch"]
>[Site "New York, NY USA"]
>[Date "1997.05.06"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Kasparov, Garry"]
>[Black "Deep Blue"]
>[Opening "Mieses opening"]
>[ECO "A00"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1.d3 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c4 Nf6 4.a3 d6 5.Nc3 Be7 6.g3 O-O 7.Bg2 Be6
>8.O-O Qd7 9.Ng5 Bf5 10.e4 Bg4 11.f3 Bh5 12.Nh3 Nd4 13.Nf2 h6 14.Be3 c5
>15.b4 b6 16.Rb1 Kh8 17.Rb2 a6 18.bxc5 bxc5 19.Bh3 Qc7 20.Bg4 Bg6
>21.f4 exf4 22.gxf4 Qa5 23.Bd2 Qxa3 24.Ra2 Qb3 25.f5 Qxd1 26.Bxd1 Bh7
>27.Nh3 Rfb8 28.Nf4 Bd8 29.Nfd5 Nc6 30.Bf4 Ne5 31.Ba4 Nxd5 32.Nxd5 a5
>33.Bb5 Ra7 34.Kg2 g5 35.Bxe5+ dxe5 36.f6 Bg6 37.h4 gxh4 38.Kh3 Kg8
>39.Kxh4 Kh7 40.Kg4 Bc7 41.Nxc7 Rxc7 42.Rxa5 Rd8 43.Rf3 Kh8 44.Kh4 Kg8
>45.Ra3 Kh8 46.Ra6 Kh7 47.Ra3 Kh8 48.Ra6 1/2-1/2
>
>But these are by agreement:
>
>[Event "IBM Kasparov vs. Deep Blue Rematch"]
>[Site "New York, NY USA"]
>[Date "1997.05.07"]
>[Round "4"]
>[White "Deep Blue"]
>[Black "Kasparov, Garry"]
>[Opening "Pirc: Pribyl variation"]
>[ECO "B07"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bg4 5.h3 Bh5 6.Bd3 e6 7.Qe2 d5
>8.Bg5 Be7 9.e5 Nfd7 10.Bxe7 Qxe7 11.g4 Bg6 12.Bxg6 hxg6 13.h4 Na6
>14.O-O-O O-O-O 15.Rdg1 Nc7 16.Kb1 f6 17.exf6 Qxf6 18.Rg3 Rde8
>19.Re1 Rhf8 20.Nd1 e5 21.dxe5 Qf4 22.a3 Ne6 23.Nc3 Ndc5 24.b4 Nd7
>25.Qd3 Qf7 26.b5 Ndc5 27.Qe3 Qf4 28.bxc6 bxc6 29.Rd1 Kc7 30.Ka1 Qxe3
>31.fxe3 Rf7 32.Rh3 Ref8 33.Nd4 Rf2 34.Rb1 Rg2 35.Nce2 Rxg4 36.Nxe6+ Nxe6
>37.Nd4 Nxd4 38.exd4 Rxd4 39.Rg1 Rc4 40.Rxg6 Rxc2 41.Rxg7+ Kb6
>42.Rb3+ Kc5 43.Rxa7 Rf1+ 44.Rb1 Rff2 45.Rb4 Rc1+ 46.Rb1 Rcc2 47.Rb4 Rc1+
>48.Rb1 Rxb1+ 49.Kxb1 Re2 50.Re7 Rh2 51.Rh7 Kc4 52.Rc7 c5 53.e6 Rxh4
>54.e7 Re4 55.a4 Kb3 56.Kc1 1/2-1/2
>
>[Event "IBM Kasparov vs. Deep Blue Rematch"]
>[Site "New York, NY USA"]
>[Date "1997.05.10"]
>[Round "5"]
>[White "Kasparov, Garry"]
>[Black "Deep Blue"]
>[Opening "Reti: King's Indian attack, Keres variation"]
>[ECO "A07"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 Bg4 3.Bg2 Nd7 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Bxf3 c6 6.d3 e6 7.e4 Ne5
>8.Bg2 dxe4 9.Bxe4 Nf6 10.Bg2 Bb4+ 11.Nd2 h5 12.Qe2 Qc7 13.c3 Be7
>14.d4 Ng6 15.h4 e5 16.Nf3 exd4 17.Nxd4 O-O-O 18.Bg5 Ng4 19.O-O-O Rhe8
>20.Qc2 Kb8 21.Kb1 Bxg5 22.hxg5 N6e5 23.Rhe1 c5 24.Nf3 Rxd1+ 25.Rxd1 Nc4
>26.Qa4 Rd8 27.Re1 Nb6 28.Qc2 Qd6 29.c4 Qg6 30.Qxg6 fxg6 31.b3 Nxf2
>32.Re6 Kc7 33.Rxg6 Rd7 34.Nh4 Nc8 35.Bd5 Nd6 36.Re6 Nb5 37.cxb5 Rxd5
>38.Rg6 Rd7 39.Nf5 Ne4 40.Nxg7 Rd1+ 41.Kc2 Rd2+ 42.Kc1 Rxa2 43.Nxh5 Nd2
>44.Nf4 Nxb3+ 45.Kb1 Rd2 46.Re6 c4 47.Re3 Kb6 48.g6 Kxb5 49.g7 Kb4 1/2-1/2



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