Author: Albert Silver
Date: 12:54:15 02/15/03
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>The question "Present them in alphabetical order?" shows the complete lack of
>understanding statistics and also the unwillingness to digest the messages
>already made. I said what should/must be done.
I must have missed this. What do you propose SSDF do exactly? Give me a clear
example of how you would present the data or correct what you believe is wrong.
Albert
>This is not up to them but a
>logic of statistics itself. Now that must hurt people who think that all is a
>question of best selling management. I would never attack you personally, you
>might be a fine person, but you have no idea of such necessities of science. And
>NO! You can't simply react and say "But they are no scientists!" although this
>is correct. The point is that you are not allowed to adopt a certain routine
>from science ad then quickly forgetting about the clearly defined context of
>such routines. I try to make that point for years by now. Without much success.
>And "FIDE lists" is surely no way-out! In FIDE you have at least a relative
>stability [over the years] of what you want to measure. But that is exactly the
>point why the adoption of Elo doesn't work for the always new seasonal flash in
>the pan. <cough>
>
>Rolf Tueschen
>
>
>
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>>>
>>>I'm sure this is a nod in the direction of marketing hype, but for commercial
>>>chess programs, the marketing force HAS to be very strong, otherwise the program
>>>probably would not exist for long.
>>>
>>>You have a point Rolf, but it will be buried by market hype, and that's life.
>>>The whole SSDF rating work perhaps can best be thought of as a longer tournament
>>>- ie., the strongest program may not win the top spot (because enough games are
>>>not played to differentiate all the programs), but that's tournament life.
>>>
>>>Welcome to SSDF life. All in all, you have to really appreciate their work, if
>>>not every little aspect of how they present their findings.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave
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