Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:21:10 02/15/03
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On February 15, 2003 at 15:54:15, Albert Silver wrote: >>The question "Present them in alphabetical order?" shows the complete lack of >>understanding statistics and also the unwillingness to digest the messages >>already made. I said what should/must be done. > >I must have missed this. What do you propose SSDF do exactly? Give me a clear >example of how you would present the data or correct what you believe is wrong. > > Albert Could you tell me your references in the business and SSDF? Then I would repeat it for you with pleasure. I think you crossed that line of decency too often in the past. You missed a lot of things, that's correct. Education and all. To deny such obvious science stuff, I was talking about, is outrageous misbehaviour in this environment here. Either give respect a chance and stop your intentional misquotings or leave me alone. Period. Rolf Tueschen > >>This is not up to them but a >>logic of statistics itself. Now that must hurt people who think that all is a >>question of best selling management. I would never attack you personally, you >>might be a fine person, but you have no idea of such necessities of science. And >>NO! You can't simply react and say "But they are no scientists!" although this >>is correct. The point is that you are not allowed to adopt a certain routine >>from science ad then quickly forgetting about the clearly defined context of >>such routines. I try to make that point for years by now. Without much success. >>And "FIDE lists" is surely no way-out! In FIDE you have at least a relative >>stability [over the years] of what you want to measure. But that is exactly the >>point why the adoption of Elo doesn't work for the always new seasonal flash in >>the pan. <cough> >> >>Rolf Tueschen >> >> >> >>> >>>> >>>>I'm sure this is a nod in the direction of marketing hype, but for commercial >>>>chess programs, the marketing force HAS to be very strong, otherwise the program >>>>probably would not exist for long. >>>> >>>>You have a point Rolf, but it will be buried by market hype, and that's life. >>>>The whole SSDF rating work perhaps can best be thought of as a longer tournament >>>>- ie., the strongest program may not win the top spot (because enough games are >>>>not played to differentiate all the programs), but that's tournament life. >>>> >>>>Welcome to SSDF life. All in all, you have to really appreciate their work, if >>>>not every little aspect of how they present their findings. >>>> >>>> >>>>Dave
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