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Subject: Re: Itanium2 Testing Crafty & Tinker Informal Results

Author: Brian Richardson

Date: 18:56:03 02/16/03

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On February 16, 2003 at 19:08:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 16, 2003 at 16:50:48, Brian Richardson wrote:
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>>I have been running some informal Itanium2 tests with Tinker and Crafty (18.15).
>>The results are not encouraging.  I know Bob Hyatt has posted better numbers for
>>Itanium2, but I can’t come even close.  Then again, I am no professional
>>compiler developer or performance engineer.  Anyway, here is the data (Knps).
>>
>>Intel IA64 Itanium2 (1GHz) dual CPU system vs dual AMD 1900+ (1.6GHz)
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>>Crafty18.15	1 CPU	2 CPUs	SMP Speedup
>>IA64	        368	715	1.94
>>AMD	        615	1015	1.65
>>IA64 Slower	40%	30%
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>That looks horrible.  What compiler, etc?  IE the best results I have seen
>come from the microsoft in-house compiler guys.  Even a 1ghz processor should
>be faster than that using a raw PIII at 1ghz...

That is the point.  Most of use do not have access to Microsoft and Intel
compiler experts.  I used the free IA-64 compiler updates from Intel and
Microsoft at:
http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/downloads/cwin.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/

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>>x86 binary
>>on IA64	        170	337	1.98
>>IA64 Slower	72%	67%
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>>Tinker
>>IA64	        260
>>AMD	        330
>>IA64 Slower	21%
>>
>>x86 on IA64	103
>>IA64 Slower	69%
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>>Note that the 2 CPU SMP efficiency for the Itanium2 system is significantly
>>better than the dual AMD system, as has been reported before.
>>
>>Also, note that both the Intel and Microsoft Itanium2 compilers produced
>>different results, depending on debug (no optimization) vs optimization modes.
>>Also, I could not get Crafty to compile with the Intel compiler, and some Tinker
>>routines broke the Intel optimizer.  Moreover, the Intel compiler produced code
>>about 5% or so faster than the Microsoft compiler for Tinker.  I was not able to
>>get profiling to work, nor did I try Vtune.
>>
>>The results are more or less in line with the SPEC CPU2000int results for Crafty
>>(see www.spec.org), some of which are (run times in seconds):
>>
>>Hewlett-Packard Company hp server rx2600 (1000 MHz, Itanium 2)
>>186.crafty 128
>>
>>Advanced Micro Devices Epox 8KHA+ Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP 1900+ (CPU
>>MHz: 1600)
>>186.crafty 106
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>>Intel Corporation Intel D850EMVR motherboard (3.06 GHz, Pentium 4 processor with
>>HT Technology)
>>186.crafty 86
>>
>>Advanced Micro Devices ASUS A7N8X (REV 1.02) Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP
>>2800+ (CPU MHz: 2250)
>>186.crafty 76.3



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