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Subject: Re: Itanium2 Testing Crafty & Tinker Informal Results

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:22:55 02/17/03

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On February 16, 2003 at 21:56:03, Brian Richardson wrote:

>On February 16, 2003 at 19:08:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2003 at 16:50:48, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>I have been running some informal Itanium2 tests with Tinker and Crafty (18.15).
>>>The results are not encouraging.  I know Bob Hyatt has posted better numbers for
>>>Itanium2, but I can’t come even close.  Then again, I am no professional
>>>compiler developer or performance engineer.  Anyway, here is the data (Knps).
>>>
>>>Intel IA64 Itanium2 (1GHz) dual CPU system vs dual AMD 1900+ (1.6GHz)
>>>
>>>Crafty18.15	1 CPU	2 CPUs	SMP Speedup
>>>IA64	        368	715	1.94
>>>AMD	        615	1015	1.65
>>>IA64 Slower	40%	30%
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>That looks horrible.  What compiler, etc?  IE the best results I have seen
>>come from the microsoft in-house compiler guys.  Even a 1ghz processor should
>>be faster than that using a raw PIII at 1ghz...
>
>That is the point.  Most of use do not have access to Microsoft and Intel
>compiler experts.  I used the free IA-64 compiler updates from Intel and
>Microsoft at:
>http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/downloads/cwin.htm
>http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/
>

Can't offer much advice since I don't have one, but it is pretty strange that
the
1ghz Mckinley is less than 1/2 the speed of a 600mhz 21264 alpha, which does
suggest something is badly wrong...



>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>x86 binary
>>>on IA64	        170	337	1.98
>>>IA64 Slower	72%	67%
>>>
>>>
>>>Tinker
>>>IA64	        260
>>>AMD	        330
>>>IA64 Slower	21%
>>>
>>>x86 on IA64	103
>>>IA64 Slower	69%
>>>
>>>
>>>Note that the 2 CPU SMP efficiency for the Itanium2 system is significantly
>>>better than the dual AMD system, as has been reported before.
>>>
>>>Also, note that both the Intel and Microsoft Itanium2 compilers produced
>>>different results, depending on debug (no optimization) vs optimization modes.
>>>Also, I could not get Crafty to compile with the Intel compiler, and some Tinker
>>>routines broke the Intel optimizer.  Moreover, the Intel compiler produced code
>>>about 5% or so faster than the Microsoft compiler for Tinker.  I was not able to
>>>get profiling to work, nor did I try Vtune.
>>>
>>>The results are more or less in line with the SPEC CPU2000int results for Crafty
>>>(see www.spec.org), some of which are (run times in seconds):
>>>
>>>Hewlett-Packard Company hp server rx2600 (1000 MHz, Itanium 2)
>>>186.crafty 128
>>>
>>>Advanced Micro Devices Epox 8KHA+ Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP 1900+ (CPU
>>>MHz: 1600)
>>>186.crafty 106
>>>
>>>Intel Corporation Intel D850EMVR motherboard (3.06 GHz, Pentium 4 processor with
>>>HT Technology)
>>>186.crafty 86
>>>
>>>Advanced Micro Devices ASUS A7N8X (REV 1.02) Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP
>>>2800+ (CPU MHz: 2250)
>>>186.crafty 76.3



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