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Subject: Re: Hyper-Threading Technology from Intel-to Hype or Not to Hype?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:41:02 03/05/03

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On March 05, 2003 at 20:10:56, Keith Evans wrote:

>On March 05, 2003 at 15:09:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 05, 2003 at 14:46:18, Keith Evans wrote:
>>
>>>On March 05, 2003 at 11:34:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 05, 2003 at 10:21:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Your data is simply wrong.  The xeon core has _not_ changed from 2.8ghz to 3.06
>>>>ghz,
>>>>and I have no idea why you want to supply your "disinformation" that it has.
>>>>
>>>>We have four of these on the way (dual 3.06 dell 650s) for faculty.  They have
>>>>shipped
>>>>(2/28) so they should be here any time.  I'll run the tests and post the results
>>>>to further
>>>>debunk this "myth" that 3.06's are different...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>What is the difference between a 3.06 GHz P4 and a 3.06 GHz Xeon?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Keith
>>
>>
>>Not a whole lot, other than the xeons have the necessary hardware for multiple
>>processor
>>configurations.  IE the ability for each to invalidate pieces of the cache based
>>on activity on
>>the other processor.
>
>At Dell you can buy dual processor P4 systems. How are they handling the
>multiprocessor configurations compared to a Xeon? Is there a performance
>hit? Are they really Xeons and not P4s?

What machine?  We have bought several 650's and they are xeon-based.  My
2600 server platform is also xeon-based.

Tell me what you are looking at and I'll poke around Dell...


>
>>Also there are xeons and xeon-MP versions.  The MP
>>versions are
>>supposedly the only ones capable of running in 4-way and up boxes.  What the
>>differences are
>>I really have not taken the time to discover...
>>
>>Oh yes.  There is one significant difference.  Price.  :)
>
>Has anyone run crafty on an MP system? Any idea how a 2 GHz MP would compare to
>a 3 GHz Xeon?


I have run it on a 4-way 2ghz box.  It is faster than my dual 2.8, but then
it is _way_ more expensive as well as the 2ghz xeons (MP certified) only come
in 2mb L2 cache versions and each CPU is selling for $4K or so.  Makes the
machine _very_ expensive.



>
>Regards,
>Keith



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