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Subject: Re: And now w/ 64 MB Hash

Author: Peter Stayne

Date: 22:58:45 06/26/03

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On June 27, 2003 at 01:42:20, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On June 27, 2003 at 01:27:19, Peter Stayne wrote:
>
>>>In my tests my Athlon XP 2.5GHz beats a P4-3.38GHz, it's close but it does.
>>
>I think Carmack is partial to Intel, because he hasn't in all of the Quake3
>patches done a quick fix in his code, making SSE work in Quake3. Quake3 treats
>the Athlon like a K6 and tries to use the non-existant/broken 3DNow! code. Also,
>he wouldn't allow AMD to make an official patch out of my DLLs. Why? One can
>only wonder...

The last part of your remark here certainly was a business decision. Those DLL's
were made by a 3rd party. First off, id would have to negotiate ownership rights
for the programmer's code. Secondly, even if he were to give them to id for
free, the moment you include them in an official patch, you're bound to support
it. This requires that id test them thoroughly, analyze them for issues that
would need to be addressed. Also, we can't know if it was a 'quick fix' or not,
perhaps it remained broken because it wasn't a quick fix. Thing is, with Q3,
most cpu's of the day pulled >60fps with a good GPU, whereas there were quite a
few GPU's that weren't pulling their weight, which is why I think he focused
more on GPU performance. He has remained faithfully honest and reliable in the
nVidia vs ATI wars.

>Thanks for running the chess tests earlier by the way.

NP



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