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Subject: Re: how good/bad is the opteron?

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 13:43:02 07/08/03

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On July 08, 2003 at 16:16:00, Rajen Gupta wrote:

>they didn't

Thanks. That's all I needed to know.


>and i am talking of the chip's overall performance as most
>end-users dont buy a chip for its chess performance only: (even on this forum of
>die-hard computer chess fanatics its quite probable that there are more intel
>based systems being used) if this so-called pentium killer does not measure up
>(and i have a horrible feeling it won't), it will be the end of AMD as we know
>it; for the last 2 yrs they have been telling us:
>
>"never mind the athlon; it is only  stop gap; wait for the hammer; it is going
>to smash intel;" and finally after endless delays it does show up it appears to
>be almost geting a smashing itself!

You do realize that "most end-users who aren't interested in computer chess that
are going to use the Opteron" aren't interested in 3D games either, right? The
Opteron is a server chip.

So I guess all of those web server admins who were planning on playing 3D games
on the companies web server should choose the Pentium 4. Good point.

I also wonder if they recompiled every benchmark they ran for the Opteron with a
compiler that can take advantage of it's newer features. If so, it would be
interesting to know where they got the source code for some of that stuff, and
what compiler they used. They made sure to mention that they tuned everything
for top performance on the P4 benchmarks. If they didn't do the same for the
Opteron (which seems unlikely, if it's possible at all), then the benchmark is
worthless. This wouldn't be the least bit suprising, as you are always quick to
find all of the benchmarks that show Intel chips as being faster and post them
here.


>if AMD disappears, we will then be subject to intel's monopoly which will be a
>horrible thing for us all: hence my disappointment with AMD: always too little
>and too late!

I doubt the sincerity of this statement, as you take every opportunity you can
to promote Intel and bash AMD.



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