Author: Rajen Gupta
Date: 13:53:10 07/08/03
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On July 08, 2003 at 16:43:02, Russell Reagan wrote: >On July 08, 2003 at 16:16:00, Rajen Gupta wrote: > >>they didn't > >Thanks. That's all I needed to know. > > >>and i am talking of the chip's overall performance as most >>end-users dont buy a chip for its chess performance only: (even on this forum of >>die-hard computer chess fanatics its quite probable that there are more intel >>based systems being used) if this so-called pentium killer does not measure up >>(and i have a horrible feeling it won't), it will be the end of AMD as we know >>it; for the last 2 yrs they have been telling us: >> >>"never mind the athlon; it is only stop gap; wait for the hammer; it is going >>to smash intel;" and finally after endless delays it does show up it appears to >>be almost geting a smashing itself! > >You do realize that "most end-users who aren't interested in computer chess that >are going to use the Opteron" aren't interested in 3D games either, right? The >Opteron is a server chip. > >So I guess all of those web server admins who were planning on playing 3D games >on the companies web server should choose the Pentium 4. Good point. > >I also wonder if they recompiled every benchmark they ran for the Opteron with a >compiler that can take advantage of it's newer features. If so, it would be >interesting to know where they got the source code for some of that stuff, and >what compiler they used. They made sure to mention that they tuned everything >for top performance on the P4 benchmarks. If they didn't do the same for the >Opteron (which seems unlikely, if it's possible at all), then the benchmark is >worthless. This wouldn't be the least bit suprising, as you are always quick to >find all of the benchmarks that show Intel chips as being faster and post them >here. > > >>if AMD disappears, we will then be subject to intel's monopoly which will be a >>horrible thing for us all: hence my disappointment with AMD: always too little >>and too late! > >I doubt the sincerity of this statement, as you take every opportunity you can >to promote Intel and bash AMD. i used to take every opportunity to promote AMD and bash intel when AMD performed; and they did perform well all the way from the thunderbird upto 1800+ when their chips clobbered intel in most benchmarks, besides having a huge lead in in running chess software: thereafter they gradually slipped and for the last year it has been a rout. its not my fault that this has happened; its just that intel gritted their teeth and got on with what was necessary to get the job done while AMD preferred to rest on their laurels :-(
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