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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List Less Chessmaster? Why?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 13:48:35 10/20/03

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On October 20, 2003 at 13:36:59, Mike S. wrote:

>On October 20, 2003 at 09:23:50, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>(...) A few
>>games would mean nothing for a reliable rating.  You need hundreds.  The
>>Chessmaster played on the servers is NOT Chessmaster 9000.  It is "TheKing"
>>engine and some other book.  Sometimes it's a modified engine which plays very
>>different from the original.  It is usually played in a Chessbase GUI where
>>auto232 is also available.  To have credibility the games also have to be
>>controlled in some manner.  The hardware needs to be consistent and verified.
>>Doing this on the internet without the ChessMasters own book is not interesting
>>to me.
>
>The problem of running The King in the Fritz GUI (and in other Auto232 capable
>GUIs, like Shredder classic and Arena) has been solved since ages! So, using the
>King engine and Auto232 is possible. I'm sure SSDF ist aware of this. The Wb2Uci
>topic is well known; lots of people use it constantly. So, the original book is
>the only problem, but for that I think a good "neutral" CTG book could be
>created from IM/GM games, to be used in these test runs.
>
>A little compromise - much better that not to test it at all...
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?322394
>(about recommandable settings etc., as the defaults would be nonsens to test)
>
>Blown in the wind. :-)
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl

If the SSDF would do as you suggest and Chessmaster wouldn't top their list they
would be criticised for:

- not using the right book
- using CB's UCI, which is undoubtedly faulty
- using the secret Chessbase autoplayer, that as everyone knows makes Fritz win
all its matches.
- not playing manually with the original CM9000, feasible since the SSDF tried
to get Deep Blue.

Etc. You name it.

What you propose would mean putting the SSDF in a lose-lose situation.

Enrique



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