Author: Dan Honeycutt
Date: 17:10:32 07/06/04
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On July 06, 2004 at 19:52:18, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On July 06, 2004 at 19:44:57, Dan Honeycutt wrote: > >>On July 06, 2004 at 19:26:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On July 06, 2004 at 19:17:22, Dan Honeycutt wrote: >>> >>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:51:03, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:46:10, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:43:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:36:43, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:15:53, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:06:06, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 17:41:05, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Amir, congratulations for the nice game! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I have not seen any info about the hardware beeing used by Junior at the current >>>>>>>>>>>WCCC. Please tell it to the observers! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>With best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>Dieter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It's an HP Proliant server. This is all HP is allowing me to say :( >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Amir >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And this is allowed in accordance with the ICGA rules?? - Mhhhh. Strange. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Why not? Since there is no limit on hardware someone could show up with the >>>>>>>>worlds fastest computer and it makes no difference. I would be interested in >>>>>>>>the NPS Junior is hitting. While analyzing the game Diep-Junior I saw Junior 8 >>>>>>>>hit over 1.6M nps on my XP2400. Bob says he is hitting 8M minimum! >>>>>>>>Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So it would be possible that I am connected with the strongest computer in >>>>>>>Japan, the second strongest was just bought by the university of >>>>>>>BadenWürtemberg, and my fictive Rorybest is completely ok within the rules??? >>>>>>>Fine! Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you can write a chess program to take advantage of it's speed I would surely >>>>>>love to see it play chess. >>>>> >>>>>Ok, thanks, although I don't know exactly what this means or what it takes, at >>>>>least I can understand that there is no automatical stronger output. Anyway it'a >>>>>also a gambler motif I can see here. It's the typical trick we can expect, when >>>>>Amir begins to play out his different personality joker in the last rounds - >>>>>then you can no longer "prepare" or hope that your counter-tuning has success. >>>>>Ok, all from a lay's heart. :) >>>> >>>> >>>>So? More power to Amir. >>>>Dan H. >>> >>>I didn't expect that I had to explain what fair play means in sports. It's that >>>at least you know in advance what opponents you have. Or if one is a spider or a >>>flying eagle. I mean, I must know how I must tune my own baby. If I have a >>>chance to equalize the hardware or if I'm so far backwards that it could be >>>better to remain in my observer's hut. >>> >>>Or the other way round: what can I win if I win on the base of my unknown >>>hardware advantages? Or the claim of a possible advantage...? Even in boxing >>>super heavy weight, where you can have a weight you prefer, everybody can see >>>your body as soon as you appear in the ring. >>> >>>No, I don't buy that this here is fair. Also, that HP forbids to say must be a >>>joke, because a company wants PR. >> >>No need to hurl insults Rolf. > >Why do you say such things? You think you can disqualify a foreigner? Sad thing >to do. I didn't attack _you_! And I didn't "hurl" with my English. But don't >expect further replies from my side. This is very insultive what you are doing. > Condescending remarks are every bit as insulting as name calling. Saying "I didn't expect that I had to explain what fair play means in sports" implies that I'm so stupid I don't understand what fair play means. Actually I'm not that stupid, I do understand what fair play means and you don't have to explain it. If my pointing that your insult to me was an insult to you then I apoligize. > > > >> We simply have difference of opinion - you seem >>to think Amir's tactics are unsportsman like, > > >Tactics? To keep secret your hardware is a tactic? > No. I think a tactic is to play a "different personality joker in the last rounds - then you can no longer 'prepare' or hope that your counter-tuning has success." He stated that it's HP who set the terms re not revealing the hardware. He has to comply with his sponsor > >>I think he should do whatever he >>can, within the rules, to increase his program's chances. > > >Fine. If that are the rules, so be it. So everybody should do the same. I can't >see the advantage of such a sports event... > > We obviously don't agree 100 percent on what constitutes fair play - but who says everybody always has to agree? Dan H. > > >> >>Dan H.
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