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Subject: Re: Fantastic attack by Junior

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 16:52:18 07/06/04

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On July 06, 2004 at 19:44:57, Dan Honeycutt wrote:

>On July 06, 2004 at 19:26:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2004 at 19:17:22, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:51:03, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:46:10, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:43:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:36:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:15:53, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:06:06, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 17:41:05, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Amir, congratulations for the nice game!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have not seen any info about the hardware beeing used by Junior at the current
>>>>>>>>>>WCCC. Please tell it to the observers!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>Dieter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's an HP Proliant server. This is all HP is allowing me to say :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Amir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And this is allowed in accordance with the ICGA rules?? - Mhhhh. Strange.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why not?  Since there is no limit on hardware someone could show up with the
>>>>>>>worlds fastest computer and it makes no difference.  I would be interested in
>>>>>>>the NPS Junior is hitting.  While analyzing the game Diep-Junior I saw Junior 8
>>>>>>>hit over 1.6M nps on my XP2400.  Bob says he is hitting 8M minimum!
>>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So it would be possible that I am connected with the strongest computer in
>>>>>>Japan, the second strongest was just bought by the university of
>>>>>>BadenWürtemberg, and my fictive Rorybest is completely ok within the rules???
>>>>>>Fine! Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you can write a chess program to take advantage of it's speed I would surely
>>>>>love to see it play chess.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, thanks, although I don't know exactly what this means or what it takes, at
>>>>least I can understand that there is no automatical stronger output. Anyway it'a
>>>>also a gambler motif I can see here. It's the typical trick we can expect, when
>>>>Amir begins to play out his different personality joker in the last rounds -
>>>>then you can no longer "prepare" or hope that your counter-tuning has success.
>>>>Ok, all from a lay's heart. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>So?  More power to Amir.
>>>Dan H.
>>
>>I didn't expect that I had to explain what fair play means in sports. It's that
>>at least you know in advance what opponents you have. Or if one is a spider or a
>>flying eagle. I mean, I must know how I must tune my own baby. If I have a
>>chance to equalize the hardware or if I'm so far backwards that it could be
>>better to remain in my observer's hut.
>>
>>Or the other way round: what can I win if I win on the base of my unknown
>>hardware advantages? Or the claim of a possible advantage...? Even in boxing
>>super heavy weight, where you can have a weight you prefer, everybody can see
>>your body as soon as you appear in the ring.
>>
>>No, I don't buy that this here is fair. Also, that HP forbids to say must be a
>>joke, because a company wants PR.
>
>No need to hurl insults Rolf.

Why do you say such things? You think you can disqualify a foreigner? Sad thing
to do. I didn't attack _you_! And I didn't "hurl" with my English. But don't
expect further replies from my side. This is very insultive what you are doing.




> We simply have difference of opinion - you seem
>to think Amir's tactics are unsportsman like,


Tactics? To keep secret your hardware is a tactic?



>I think he should do whatever he
>can, within the rules, to increase his program's chances.


Fine. If that are the rules, so be it. So everybody should do the same. I can't
see the advantage of such a sports event...




>
>Dan H.



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