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Subject: Re: Fantastic attack by Junior

Author: Dan Honeycutt

Date: 16:44:57 07/06/04

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On July 06, 2004 at 19:26:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On July 06, 2004 at 19:17:22, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:51:03, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:46:10, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:43:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:36:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:15:53, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 18:06:06, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 17:41:05, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Amir, congratulations for the nice game!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have not seen any info about the hardware beeing used by Junior at the current
>>>>>>>>>WCCC. Please tell it to the observers!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>Dieter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's an HP Proliant server. This is all HP is allowing me to say :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Amir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And this is allowed in accordance with the ICGA rules?? - Mhhhh. Strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why not?  Since there is no limit on hardware someone could show up with the
>>>>>>worlds fastest computer and it makes no difference.  I would be interested in
>>>>>>the NPS Junior is hitting.  While analyzing the game Diep-Junior I saw Junior 8
>>>>>>hit over 1.6M nps on my XP2400.  Bob says he is hitting 8M minimum!
>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So it would be possible that I am connected with the strongest computer in
>>>>>Japan, the second strongest was just bought by the university of
>>>>>BadenWürtemberg, and my fictive Rorybest is completely ok within the rules???
>>>>>Fine! Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>If you can write a chess program to take advantage of it's speed I would surely
>>>>love to see it play chess.
>>>
>>>Ok, thanks, although I don't know exactly what this means or what it takes, at
>>>least I can understand that there is no automatical stronger output. Anyway it'a
>>>also a gambler motif I can see here. It's the typical trick we can expect, when
>>>Amir begins to play out his different personality joker in the last rounds -
>>>then you can no longer "prepare" or hope that your counter-tuning has success.
>>>Ok, all from a lay's heart. :)
>>
>>
>>So?  More power to Amir.
>>Dan H.
>
>I didn't expect that I had to explain what fair play means in sports. It's that
>at least you know in advance what opponents you have. Or if one is a spider or a
>flying eagle. I mean, I must know how I must tune my own baby. If I have a
>chance to equalize the hardware or if I'm so far backwards that it could be
>better to remain in my observer's hut.
>
>Or the other way round: what can I win if I win on the base of my unknown
>hardware advantages? Or the claim of a possible advantage...? Even in boxing
>super heavy weight, where you can have a weight you prefer, everybody can see
>your body as soon as you appear in the ring.
>
>No, I don't buy that this here is fair. Also, that HP forbids to say must be a
>joke, because a company wants PR.

No need to hurl insults Rolf.  We simply have difference of opinion - you seem
to think Amir's tactics are unsportsman like, I think he should do whatever he
can, within the rules, to increase his program's chances.

Dan H.



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