Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:46:16 09/26/04
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On September 26, 2004 at 02:41:30, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On September 25, 2004 at 19:13:56, Mark Young wrote: > >>On September 25, 2004 at 18:57:14, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On September 25, 2004 at 17:50:59, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>On September 25, 2004 at 17:41:11, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 25, 2004 at 15:44:11, BubbleGum1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I personally know that two different people used computers to win 10,000 in >>>>>>the last two world open tournaments - one of the cheats was a long standing >>>>>>member of this very group!. Is there a device that the directors could get to >>>>>>detect various transmissions including radio, bluetooth etc? Because i have >>>>>>seen this flagrant cheating happen twice now with nothing done, i almost feel if >>>>>>i had an opponent with braces on his teeth I would have to ask the director to >>>>>>check them for a wireless device! >>>>> >>>>>People should simply stop giving money prizes for adults under 1600 and even for >>>>>adults under 2200. >>>> >>>>Uri, I must say. I thought you were smarter then this. If you stopped giving >>>>money away at tournament for people under 1600 or 2200. You would have no >>>>tournament. In Missouri there is only a very few people who have ratings over >>>>2200. And not many people over 1600. Most people who play are below 1600. >>> >>>I do not think that you will have no tournaments. >>> >>>People at the weak level usually play for fun and not for money. >> >>I will speak for myslef here. I played for fun and money. I for one will not >>donate to a prize fund I can not win. So my guess is there will be no prize >>fund, or tournament....because I am not alone in this feeling. I have won many >>tournaments in my class, and have won 1000's of dallors over the years, along >>with some nice trophies. This is not free, people must be willing to pay. And >>people are only going to pay if they have a chance to win money and trophies. >>People are not going to just hand over our money to master class players. We >>already support them by being able to win less, for the money we put up. > >In Italy chess is not followed as it was some years ago and the no. of players >has reduced. Part of this is due also to big mistakes made by tournament >organizers. > >In some tournaments someone thougth that reducing the money price for the low >levels and increasing the price for the master level would have kept the >interest of the GMs to attend as well as IMs as "this was the most important >thing for everybody". > >It turned out completely wrong as the low level players attending the tournament >went down dramatically and many wrote ferocious protest letters stating that >they do not agree at all paying 90% or more of the money prize and getting 30% >or less. The weak players should understand that they never can win too high prizes because in that case strong players will do better by pretending to be weak players only to win prizes and the weak player again will have no chance. Of course it is cheating to lose on purpose but not everybody is honest and strong players may lose on purpose in order to win some strong tournament to win 10,000$ for the best player under 1600 and you will be able to prove nothing against them. In Israel 10,000$ is not something that GM get as first prize even in strong tournament like the Israeli final championship and when I read that in USA there is prize of 10,000$ for the best player under 1600 then I think that this decision is very bad for chess because it encourage strong players to pretend to be weak players and a player at IM level who care about money has no reason to play in the strong tournament when he cannot expect to earn a lot of money and it is better for him to pretend to be weak player if he care about earning money. Of course not everybody care about money and a lot of players chose to play in strong tournament that they have no practical chance to win money. I know because I often chose to play in stronger tournament when I had no practical chance to earn money from it and I am not alone. In a lot of cases in Israel there are 2 levels: weak level <2000 high level >1800 players with rating between 1800 and 2000 can choose and often they choose to play in the high level in spite of knowing that they have less chances to win prizes. In the next tournament in Israel that I will proably play we have: main tournament>2000- second tournament<2100 I can choose and I think that I will choose the main tournament. Uri
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