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Subject: Re: The importance of opening books -- a simple experiment

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:52:43 02/17/05

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On February 17, 2005 at 17:46:47, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On February 17, 2005 at 16:16:16, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>I don't think you are being quite fair to Vincent here.  His actual statement
>>(or at least what I think he intended to say) is that "A good book vs no book is
>>worth 700 elo at the World Championships", and I think that it is not that far
>>off.  If you show up at the World Championships with no book, you have 0% chance
>>to win, regardless of what engine you use.
>
>I am not sure what he intended to say, but he did not mention anything about
>World
>Championships (at least not in the initial post, I haven't bothered to read the
>whole
>thread).  Basically he just said "book=700 Elo" without any qualifications at
>all.
>
>Perhaps it was just intended as a joke, as has been suggested in the current
>thread.
>
>>Anyway, if you don't feel the need to work on the book, don't.
>
>Of course I am not going to do much (if any) work on the book.  From my point of
>view, there is no point.  I cannot see how I can learn anything useful from it.
>
>>Arturo and I will enjoy getting good positions and easy points :)
>
>As you know, I usually don't participate in tournaments.  And if I ever do, my
>purpose
>is to meet the other participants, and not to try to win.  The competitive
>aspect of
>computer chess has very little interest to me.  My focus is not on defeating
>other
>chess engines, but on contributing to the continued improvement of chess playing
>algorithms.  I want to see the general level of amateur computer chess engines
>continue to rise, and to feel that I have at least a tiny part of the honor for
>this.
>From this perspective, working on the book would be a complete waste of time.
>
>I concede that a good book is definitely an important factor in tournament play,
>but it will be really hard to convince me that it is worth anywhere near 700
>points.
>I leave the discussion of precisely how much can be gained by a good book to
>those who are more interested in tournaments.
>
>And by the way, trust me:  Zappa really wouldn't need any special book
>preparation
>to get good positions and easy points against Glaurung.  :-)
>
>Tord

Same for movei

For some reason Artuto does not understand that opponents get easy points
against movei simply because movei is an extremely weak engine.

I guess that it is even weaker than Glaurung.

Uri



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