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Subject: Re: Zappa Hardware Upgrade

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 00:43:29 12/26/05

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On December 26, 2005 at 02:18:10, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 25, 2005 at 13:21:40, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On December 25, 2005 at 11:29:42, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 25, 2005 at 09:51:14, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 24, 2005 at 10:13:52, Vikrant Malvankar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 23, 2005 at 16:36:03, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>When is the paderborn contest? I'm really excited to see the results. Looks like
>>>>>>it's going to be exciting with Zappa, Rybka, Fruit battling it out :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Josh
>>>>>
>>>>>no Shredder?
>>>>
>>>>Well, Shredder 10 is not ready yet, but someone will get killed anyway by us...
>>>>
>>>>I think many people have too short memory...:-)
>>>>
>>>>we will refresh it!:-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok u mean it will come last and Stefen has been sleeping as the new engines pop
>>>>>out.
>>>>
>>>>We are not sleeping, but working...after 3 years domination we need to change
>>>>several things...
>>>
>>>You know that 100 elo improvement is not enough to dominate again and maybe even
>>>150 elo is not enough to be better than rybka1.2.
>>
>>yes
>>
>>>
>>>I doubt if shredder can go back to dominate.
>>
>>I do not.
>
>I wonder what is the source for your confidence when you cannot know what the
>opponents are going to do.

Well, I have been in this field since many years and I can get experimental
versions too.
I also know what Stefan can do if he wants. Now he is forced to make such
improvements otherwise he will have to stop making chess programs.
He is a very clever programmer as being able to redesign part or the whole
program to make it better if he wants. Some programmers are somehow "slaves" of
their system and cannot make something really better...he is not.

>
>I am sure stefan plan to try to dominate but I think that you cannot have
>confidence that he is going to be number 1 again.

Shredder has been improved already a lot, but not as much we want, so we will
work on it hard still...there are several things to change/improve.

>
>My opinion is that both rybka and fruit seem to have better chances for first
>place and it is clear that rybka1.2 is not the end of rybka improvements and the
>author may release new version at the time of the release of shredder10 if he
>finds that shredder10 is better.

Well, my expectation is that they will improve about 50 points in the near
future, so we need to improve Shredder at least 150 points.

I am sure Stefan, with our team support, can do it. Shredder 10 book is nearly
finished and is improved over 9 version...only the engine is not finished
yet...in the meantime we will have a strong engine+book version in Paderborn...I
do not think we will win, but we will be dangerous opponents for sure...

Sandro
>
>Uri



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