Author: ERIQ
Date: 20:30:06 01/18/06
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On January 18, 2006 at 21:23:42, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 18, 2006 at 20:33:34, Graham Banks wrote: > >>On January 18, 2006 at 20:02:28, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 18, 2006 at 19:18:42, robert flesher wrote: >>> >>>>Thank-you for the observation, however, unless its a book loss which it is not I >>>>think it is fair game. Although I understand that perhaps this can stastically >>>>alter the final results, maybe not. I guess book learning would fix this issue, >>>>it does give me some thinking to do, cheers. >>> >>>With all due respect, I think it simply invalidates the results. 1 game in 6 had >>>the exact same opening? How can one possibly compare the strength of the engines >>>in such a case? >>> >>> Albert >> >> >> >>Hi Albert, >> >>I don't think you'll find that Robert is the only person who tests like this and >>he certainly won't be alone in thinking that it's fine, especially if learning >>is activated. >>Because I test with learning off and use generic books, I don't allow any >>duplicate opening lines, that is the position at which the engines leave the >>book. >>There are those who criticise this also. >>To each his own, but as long as testing conditions and preferences are made >>clear, members can make up their own minds about the usefulness or validity of >>any testing. >> >>Regards, Graham. > > >Indeed, and I made up mine and posted it. 31 times the same disastrously scored >opening? 13 for another? The same color in all occasions, and this is to go on >and on, and prove what? That if one repeats the same losing line that one >will... lose? Why not just have it play 200 straight times that same opening >with the same color and report the results? However, as you say, one can do as >one wishes. The problem is that if the intention is to make comparisons on a >program's ability, then you have failed, unless you mean only their competence >in that position. not really! I think that if a program doesn't know not to repeat a losing line then it deserves it's fate. People do the same sometimes, I myself have done this stupid thing and have also seen strong players do it too. Once a expert player asked me to play the french for money and he said that he would beat me every time so I took up the challenge, we played 5min/game and I was black every game, after a few games I saw that one line was great for me because he did not know it and I kept repeating the line untill he was out of money, well if I could figure out my performance rating it would be at least 2400 is that right? am I really that strong? no but that was my fate that day :) and his fate was that dispite the fact that he was normally around 2100 fide he played at 1900 or worst in that line. Eriq
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