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Subject: Re: comp vs comp or comp vs human ... but why not comp vs cc players?

Author: blass uri

Date: 09:31:16 04/23/99

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On April 23, 1999 at 11:33:08, Robert Ericsson wrote:


>>>The humans can check for blunders with a computer themselves, leaving
>>>us with a game where the computer's skill of planning will be tested
>>>against the cc player's skill of planning.
>>
>>Allow the cc player to check his ideas with a program and he will crush the
>>opponent program.
>
>I'm not so sure. Maybe if the cc player have an ICCF-ELO >2500 but not
>otherwise.
>
>Hmm... clarification: if comp uses 40 moves in 2 hours and cc player can
>think much longer it's true. With equal time I don't think so.

1)I think that it is not so hard to get ICCF-ELO >2500 if humans use hours per
move but most of the humans do not want to do it. becasue there are no big
prizes in these games.

I think that a computer have chances in practical correspondence games but only
because of the fact that the humans do not play seriously enough (they have
other things to do and not only chess).

2)I believe that the programmers did not do their programs to help the humans in
correspondence games.

I see that Chessmaster6000 looks at many stupid lines(I can tell it to show me
the thinking lines) but I cannot tell the program to save time and not to look
in lines that are clearly illogical during the search.

Uri




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