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Subject: Re: CST time control violation (was: Re: 99 Summer update....)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:27:50 08/19/99

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On August 19, 1999 at 08:03:42, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 19, 1999 at 04:31:03, Shep wrote:
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>>It's a matter of philosophy. I am not a slave to the rulebook, besides my SCCS
>>tournament rules don't even mention this issue. :)
>
>
>indeed ! :-))
>
>>I want to test playing strength.
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>right. thats the important thing. quality. not 13 seconds of quantity.


Even if you find the 'saving move' during that 13 seconds you don't have?
That makes no sense.  Either play using the clock, or play without using
the clock.  But not "using the clock except when a program oversteps the
time control only by some 'delta' that is acceptable".

Because that isn't science, any longer.  It becomes something subjectively
"less".



>
>>If one program steps over the time control by
>>13 seconds (which is about 1/550th of the alotted overall time), it does not
>>matter much and does not constitute any unfair advantage over its opponent.
>
>>It is also a matter of etiquette. I wouldn't claim a victory in a tournament
>>because my opponent took 13 seconds too long on his 40th move. If he took 5
>>minutes, that would be another issue, but this way it is just as unsportsmanlike
>>to claim a victory as it is to overstep the controls.
>>(Actually, I even hate people with "Autoflag=on" on ICC... ;-))
>
>
>Unsportsmanlike . this is the right word. very on-topic in this field.
>chess players and chess programmers fro time to time have a problem with
>fair sports. :-)
>


Name one GM player that would play another GM in a real game, and not call
"flag" when the flag falls.  This isn't a 'sportsmanship' issue.  Because
'sportsmanship' has _nothing_ to do with violating specific rules and letting
that pass...






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>>Shep



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