Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:42:38 08/24/99
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On August 24, 1999 at 17:55:12, Terry Ripple wrote: this is true, of course, but I think the point is twisted too far. I was at a conference in 1984 and we got into a discussion of the "Turing test" and so forth (ACC4 in London, I think). The presenter (artificial stupidity was the title) made some comment and I challenged him on it. He gave a position to Cray Blitz after his talk, and it instantly said "Mate in 12 (or something similar)" and he said "it just flunked, because _no_ human could find a mate that deep in a fraction of a second." I told him I thought that was definitely a form of "artificial stupidity" but he was exhibiting it, and not my program. Because the entire _point_ of using a computer is to do things _faster_ than a human, not slower. But you get the point... trying to make a computer emulate a human is not a reasonable goal. Trying to beat all humans certainly is one... But trying to make it make the same mistakes humans make? waste time like a human does? All seems like something from "Alice thru the looking glass" IMHO. :) >Just check out several of your own games against your favorite program to see >how many seconds per move you are using and take an average and do this for >blitz and standard controls, then you can just add this amount of extra time to >your own clock for the particular time control you took an average of! > I'am sure there are players already doing this so this is nothing new. I think >this is especially a more fair way of playing against the beasts as most of them >don't lose any time in the opening. > There is another point to make which is that the beast gives back alot of this >time that it gained in the opening stage by using up several seconds for a move >that is very obvious to a human that will use only one second. This happens alot >of times where there are checks and there is only one or two obvious moves to >make, but the beast uses several seconds off the clock before it makes it's move >thus giving back alot of time which it gained from the opening! > >Thanks for any input on this subject, >Regards, >Terry
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