Author: Mark Young
Date: 19:07:03 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 21:14:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On January 10, 2000 at 20:51:58, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>"it makes positional errors and misplays some endgames"
>>
>>"It doesn?t understand piece mobility."...... Very true in this game.
>>
>>"Crafty is a weak program compared with the best commercial chess
>>programs."
>>
>>Score after 21 games at G/30
>>
>>Fritz 6 16
>>
>>Crafty 16.6 5
>>(chessbase version)
>>
>>[Event "mark-11"]
>>[Site ""]
>>[Date "2000.01.10"]
>>[Round "22.1"]
>>[White "Crafty 16.6"]
>>[Black "Fritz 6"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "B31"]
>>[WhiteElo "2431"]
>>[BlackElo "2563"]
>>[PlyCount "108"]
>>[EventDate "2000.01.10"]
>>[Source ""]
>>
>>1. e4 {0} 1... c5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nc6 {0} 3. Bb5 {0} 3... g6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>4... Bg7 {0} 5. O-O {0} 5... d6 {0}
>>
>>[D] r1bqk1nr/pp2ppbp/2np2p1/1Bp5/4P3/2N2N2/PPPP1PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w kq - 0 5
>>
>> 6. e5 {0.69/10 88} 6... dxe5 {-0.19/12 74}
>>7. Qe1 {(Re1) 0.43/10 50} 7... Qc7 {-0.28/12 78} 8. Qe3 {0.29/10 53} 8... Bg4 {
>>-0.38/11 41} 9. Re1 {(d3) 0.26/10 46} 9... Bxf3 {(f6) -0.34/11 44} 10. Qxf3 {
>>0.37/11 45} 10... Nf6 {(Nh6) -0.34/12 80}
>>
>>[D] r3k2r/ppq1ppbp/2n2np1/1Bp1p3/8/2N2Q2/PPPP1PPP/R1B1R1K1 w kq - 0 10
>>
>> 11. Bxc6+ {(d3) 0.49/11 44} 11...
>>Qxc6 {-0.06/13 33} 12. Qxc6+ {0.47/12 65} 12... bxc6 {-0.13/13 15} 13. Rxe5 {
>>0.47/13 40} 13... Nd5 {0.09/11 40} 14. Re2 {0.43/12 40} 14... c4 {0.12/10 48}
>>15. Nd1 {0.35/12 38} 15... Kd7 {(Rd8) 0.19/11 61}
>>
>>[D] r6r/p2kppbp/2p3p1/3n4/2p5/8/PPPPRPPP/R1BN2K1 w - - 0 15
>>
>> 16. Re4 {0.76/12 39} 16...
>>Nb6 {0.28/11 69} 17. Rh4 {(Rb1) 0.66/11 37} 17... f5 {(c5) 0.09/10 43} 18. Ne3
>>{(Rb1) 0.58/11 36} 18... Bf6 {(Rab8) -0.22/11 77} 19. Rf4 {0.51/12 34} 19... e5
>>{(Bg5) -0.41/11 39} 20. Rf3 {0.32/13 33} 20... e4 {(Bg5) -0.47/11 38}
>>
>>[D] r6r/p2k3p/1np2bp1/5p2/2p1p3/4NR2/PPPP1PPP/R1B3K1 w - - 0 20
>>
>>21. Rh3 {
>>0.35/12 32} 21... f4 {(Bg5) -0.41/10 33} 22. Nd1 {(Ng4) 0.25/12 31} 22... h5 {
>>(Nd5) -0.31/10 42} 23. Rb1 {0.50/10 30} 23... Nd5 {-0.31/10 42} 24. Ra3 {
>>(Kf1) 0.41/11 30} 24... Rhe8 {(f3) -0.28/9 27} 25. Ra4 {(g3) 0.35/11 30} 25...
>>a5 {(Nb6) -0.25/10 26}
>>
>>[D] r3r3/3k4/2p2bp1/p2n3p/R1p1pp2/8/PPPP1PPP/1RBN2K1 w - a6 0 25
>>
>>
>> 26. Kf1 {0.19/11 27} 26... Nb6 {(f3) -0.19/9 20} 27. Ra3
>>{0.00/12 28} 27... a4 {(Nd5) -0.28/10 67} 28. Rh3 {(b3) -0.13/11 27} 28... Nd5
>>{-0.56/10 27} 29. g3 {(f3) -0.43/10 26} 29... f3 {(fxg3) -1.00/10 22} 30. a3 {
>>(g4) -1.16/11 35} 30... Ke6 {(Rh8) -1.59/11 29}
>>
>>[D] r3r3/8/2p1kbp1/3n3p/p1p1p3/P4pPR/1PPP1P1P/1RBN1K2 w - - 0 30
>>
>>
>> 31. g4 {(Nc3) -1.85/12 24}
>>31... hxg4 {-2.06/11 21} 32. Rg3 {-1.93/12 23} 32... Rh8 {(Kf5) -2.22/11 22}
>>33. Rxg4 {-2.48/11 23} 33... Rxh2 {-2.44/10 18} 34. Rg1 {-3.62/10 30} 34... Nf4
>>{-3.34/11 32} 35. Ke1 {-5.06/10 73} 35... Rah8 {-3.59/10 24} 36. d3 {
>>-5.61/10 31} 36... Rh1 {-3.97/9 21} 37. Bxf4 {-5.69/10 18} 37... Rxg1+ {
>>-4.41/8 3} 38. Kd2 {-4.68/4 1} 38... Bd4 {(exd3) -4.34/9 19} 39. Rc1 {
>>(Ra1) -6.42/10 28} 39... Rhh1 {-4.88/9 8} 40. Rb1 {-8.81/10 26} 40... Re1 {
>>-9.34/9 16} 41. Nc3 {-11.79/9 17} 41... e3+ {-11.28/9 3} 42. fxe3 {-11.99/11 16
>>} 42... f2 {-11.44/9 6} 43. Ne2 {-12.41/10 30} 43... f1=Q {-11.38/8 5} 44.
>>Nxd4+ {-13.43/10 14} 44... Kd7 {-12.56/10 4} 45. Kc3 {-13.84/11 22} 45... Rxb1
>>{-13.66/11 3} 46. Kxc4 {-15.69/10 25} 46... Rxb2 {-15.53/9 4} 47. Bg5 {
>>-15.69/9 71} 47... Qb1 {-16.78/8 3} 48. Nxc6 {(e4) -#7/8 60} 48... Rxc2+ {
>>-#7/6 1} 49. Kd4 {-#6/8 8} 49... Qb6+ {-#5/4 0} 50. Ke5 {(Ke4) -#5/8 9} 50...
>>Qc5+ {(Qb5+) -#4/4 0} 51. Kf6 {(Ke4) -#4/7 10} 51... Qf8+ {-#4/4 0} 52. Ke5 {
>>-#3/8 8} 52... Qf5+ {-#3/3 0} 53. Kd4 {-#2/4 0} 53... Kxc6 {-#2/2 0} 54. Be7 {
>>-#1/8 8} 54... Qd5# {-#1/2 0} 0-1
>>
>>[D] 8/4B3/2k3p1/3q4/p2K4/P2PP3/2r5/7r w - - 0 54
>
>
>Maybe I miss the point. Or is there a point when you want to test a version of
>the program that is over a year old? When there are many newer versions of
>Crafty for the chessbase interfaces?
Your point is valid, I tested crafty 16.6 because it was the version being
discussed in other post, and it was the version used in the article and that you
pointed out had a good result in one of the acticles tournament. (The swiss
tournament I think.) I will now test Crafty 17.4 vs Fritz 6 at game 30. The
lastest chessbase version of crafty on the Chessbase site and will post the
results tomorrow.
>
>Feel free to whiz over to ICC and have a go at the most recent version, which
>seems to be playing pretty solidly...
>
>16.6 had plenty of problems... The article did not say "crafty 16.6 is playing
>weakly or makes positional mistakes". It said "crafty ..."
>
>And most everything said was bass-ackward...
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