Author: Mark Young
Date: 19:45:47 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 22:12:39, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 10, 2000 at 21:27:06, Mark Young wrote: >>On January 10, 2000 at 20:59:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>You've had an axe to grind with Bob before, so your judgment in this matter is >>>somewhat in question to me. >> >>I don't have an axe to grind with Bob, and Bob does not have an axe to grind >>with me. I am doing what I always do when I disagree with posts on CCC. Show >>Data why I think they are WRONG! >> >>> >>>I have seen contests where Crafty has done well. Indeed, if you look at Andy >>>S.'s current tournament, you will see that Crafty is leading several commercial >>>entrants. Crafty has done well at all time controls in many different contests. >> >>Please post the results!! If you disagree and think Crafty is on par with the >>top programs show us some data. > >WMCCC, Jakarta. Crafty bests most of the commercial entrants: >http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/96wm$tix.htm >KK KUP 2, Crafty beats two commercial programs: >http://www.gambitsoft.com/kup.htm >KK KUP 1, Crafty beats commercial programs: >http://www.gambitsoft.com/turnier/kupold.htm > >Crafty whips a stand-alone chess computer: >http://www.ixian.com/ead/misc/crafty-vs-novag-super-constellation.shtml > >Many excellent results in Shep's tournaments: >http://sccs.8m.com/compchess2.html > >Generally considered the strongest winboard program by the experts: >http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach/engines/crafty.htm > >Crafty did very well in Ed's Chess 2010 contest. > >You posted a single game. Every chess program makes horrible moves from time to >time. In fact, I do recall a very horrible move crafty made in KKUP 2 (pawn >move in early endgame) that really made me recoil. But so does every other >program produce toe-curling monstrosities. I posted one game...the last game of the match. But I gave the results Fritz 6 17 - Crafty 16.6 5. I will post the games as always when the Fritz 6 vs Crafty 17.4 match is done. Please as you well know I have posted 100's of games... thats all of my match games I have commented on in CCC. And have never with held any game data from this group. > >>> >>>I am biased as well, since I like Crafty and Bob Hyatt. Hence, my judgement is >>>questionable on this matter. >> >>I like nor dislike Crafty it is just a chess program. I am just showing why I >>agree with the comments made in the article that is in question. I has nothing >>to do with like or dislike. That is your problem, please don't project your >>feelings and turn them into my motivations to dismiss that data and the point of >>the post. >> >>I have had good things to say about other crafty versions, but the one in >>questions here is Crafty 16.6 and the accuracy of the comment made in the >>article. >> >>> >>>In any case, your whole post looks like a troll to me. >> >>Why is this a troll....I address directly the point of discussion in many of the >>post in the last day, and show data and a game example. If you disagree with the >>data or think the observations are just wrong, show your data. I thought the >>comments were accurate, and show why I think they are accurate.
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