Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:17:53 01/11/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 17:21:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >Please read what has been >written by Hsu! He mentions nothing about Kasparov, only mentions >a manager and Hsu doesn't mention what amount of $$$$$$ >he offered to Kasparov. I don't see *any* line even that he offered >money. > >Hsu also mentions he doesn't have money at all to finance the project. > >Looks to me like a man without a purse is trying to get a match going >between kasparov and something non-existance. Looks to me like someone without the financial resources, but with an unmatchable reputation, has tried to get Kasparov to commit to a match so that he _can_ get funding to develop the chip again. Kasparov agreed to play Deep Blue long before they signed on the dotted line with an agreed- on prize fund. But there is _nothing_ to prevent him from saying "Sure, I will play your box, if the prize fund can reach $1,000,000.00 or some such figure". And I think that is what Hsu was asking for, for him to commit to play, if the prize requirement can be met and Hsu can get funding to build a new machine. > >Now i don't blame Hsu for trying this, but let's look a bit commercial >to this whole project: what investor is so stupid to invest in something >that's not gonna give him back his money? Especially he doesn't need to >do it for the PR. IBM took the PR already in 1997, who cares now about >chess? Chess was already solved in 1997! Anybody besides IBM would jump at the chance. Hsu certainly doesn't need multiple millions of dollars. US Companies are quite willing to pay millions for a one minute superbowl commercial. IBM got _far_ more publicity for their investment than a one minute superbowl commercial gives. I'd bet that a large company like Intel, Compaq, etc. would jump at the chance, _IF_ Kasparov would commit to play. > >Kasparovs manager probably isn't that dumb either. If he says yes for the >same money Kasparov plays that match for 1$, as mr.Hsu didn't manage to get >sponsors at all. > >So in short Hsu needs to give either more insight in what he has written >to Kasparovs manager, and what answers he got back, before we can talk about >what really is going on. > >The open letter from Hsu is simply very vague. It didn't seem that vague to me. It seemed to me that Kasparov was simply not interested, which is his right. Otherwise he could have said "Sure, if you can guarantee the loser .5 million and the winner 1.0 million)." Or whatever figure he wanted to name. If he really wanted to not play, he could have demanded 10 million, which would be very unlikely. Instead, Hsu got a "not interested". > >I'm very sure that a chessplayer who lost a match wants a revenge. It has >always been like that in history, and Kasparov sure is no exception to that. > I totally disagree. In my old Karate days, there were a couple of guys I had to go up against that I did _not_ want to meet again, revenge or no revenge. Kasparov might feel the same about Deep Blue. At least it appears so... >Like the posting of Amir indicated Kasparov surely didn't react negative to >a single letter exchange between his manager and Hsu. There was not just one letter. Hsu's letter was pretty clear about that. It might be that Kasparov's manager chose to not forward the requests. No way to know. But Hsu claimed that several contacts were attempted. > >On January 11, 2000 at 14:22:14, Miguel Arrospide wrote: > >>I have been following the discussions about Kasparov and Hsu. Some people seems >>to miss the point. The point is that Kasparov is afraid. >>Is Hsu asking Kasparov to play a match for FREE? No. So then what's the big >>deal. Let's say Chessbase asks Kasparov to play a match with Fritz 20 for 2 >>million dollars . Do you think Kasparov would turn that money down? of course >>not. Rememeber Chess history. When unreasonable demamds were placed on the >>challenger (such as collecting a big purse) it was done because the Champion was >>afraid that he might lose. Lasker did it to Capa. Capa to Alekhine. Alekhine to >>Capa. Botvinnik with his rematch clause did the same to the others. >>Kasparov is one of the greatest chess players ever, but he is afraid. Kasparov >>could have said to Hsu. Ok Ill play with your machine for $2 million but he >>chose to ignore the challenge. >>Lots of people accussed a few years ago IBM of not being "willing" to finance >>another match. Yeah Right....! After Kasparov call them a cheat. I like Kasparov >>but I can not defend his behavior anymore. He tried to change FIDE for his own >>advantage. He found the PCA and then some other Association and then abandoned >>them. He did not like Campomanes but then he made up with him when it serve his >>purposes. He was a sore loser when he lost to IBM. He wanted a rematch and now >>he refuses. He did not want to play Shirov.etc. etc. We need some Champion like >>Max Euwe really bad.
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