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Subject: Re: Cadaqués Tournament Shredder 4 - Junior 6.0 Game 4

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 08:56:52 01/15/00

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On January 15, 2000 at 11:14:16, Len Eisner wrote:

>On January 15, 2000 at 05:24:07, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2000 at 05:19:40, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2000 at 01:19:48, Len Eisner wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the following position Junior 6 plays 88…Rd3+ which wins (mate in 15), but
>>>>the simple g4 wins much faster (mate in 8).  Why do the tablebases prevent
>>>>Junior from finding the fastest mate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Len
>>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I think Enrique didn´t have the Turbo-CD´s in the beginning of the tournament.
>>>As far as I know, he have installed them now,
>>
>>You are right.
>>
>>Enrique
>>
>>>so Junior finds it now.
>>>
>>>Bertil
>
>Actually, the 5 piece endgame in question (KRB vs KP) is not included on the
>Turbo-CD´s.  My guess is that Junior plays Rd3+ because it wants to simplify
>into a position contained in one of the 4 piece tablebases (KB vs KP), even if
>it is a much longer mate.
>
>You have to admit, Rd3+ looks bizarre when the simple g4 is available.  What
>human master would play Rd3+?

I guess none, but then again computer programs and GMs don't follow the same
thinking or computing process. Would a GM in the position below play 84.Kb4 and
announce mate in 19? Sure not, and Junior 6 did in the 13th game against
Shredder 4...

Enrique

[D] 8/8/2k1B3/1p5q/3Q4/1KP5/8/8 w - - 0 84


>Len



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