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Subject: Re: J6 eliminats Illescas- What does Hyatt have to say?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:49:41 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 09:49:53, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>On February 13, 2000 at 23:05:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On February 13, 2000 at 20:57:12, Bradley Woodward wrote:
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>>>On February 13, 2000 at 17:48:35, John Kilkenny wrote:
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>>>>  No attack,  Just answr the question dude.  His name is brought up because he
>>>>is the most ardent supporter of the anti comp GM campaign.  Also in the minds of
>>>>many, he holds sway over the minds of the uneducated bretheren of chess.  We
>>>>fight for the release of those minds :).
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>>>I just had a look at the 'best c' list on ICC.  That's the list that shows the
>>>top 20 human and computer players.  Out of the 20 in the blitz list, only three
>>>are computers.  This is a big difference from a while ago.  Ferret plows in at
>>>#2, throwing my otherwards cool point into a spin.  But you get that.
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>>I believe that had ferret been active over the past few months, its rating
>>would have dropped significantly as well.  I think it might be the best thing
>>on ICC, but there are a lot of new players there, using faster and faster
>>hardware, with strong programs.  None of us are +400 over the commercial
>>programs, even with a fairly significant hardware advantage.  This 'advantage'
>>is almost gone now, with the super-G lonnies has actually being faster than my
>>quad xeon by 30% (factoring in SMP overhead).
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>Seems to me that GMs are winning back some ground. There was a time computers
>nearly "owned" blitz. Computers have gone a good deal faster/stronger since
>then, but and still only 3 C's in the top 20 Blitz? In a while there will be no
>C at all :-) And that's Blitz...
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Shhh... do you want the 'computers are unbeatable GM players' group on your
case too?  :)



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>>>My opinion is that computers rule blitz and standard games.  30/0 has been owned
>>>by silicion for a while, and now it seems that 60/0 has fallen too.
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>>>As a geek and a terrible chess player, I look to computers to visit revenge on
>>>those better than me.  Call me petty and shallow - I can take it.
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>>>Before I start telling my co-workers and friends that GMs are a doomed species,
>>>I'll need more than a few 60/0 games.  But we're very close.  Just look at
>>>Rebel.  It's winning some games from GMs at 40/2 - go Ed!  But it's losing quite
>>>a few too, sometimes to mistakes and bad judgement that GMs just do not make,
>>>and that I believe is Bob's point.
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>>>I must add, that the 'best c' list in standard is 100% human.



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