Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:49:41 02/14/00
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On February 14, 2000 at 09:49:53, Bas Hamstra wrote: >On February 13, 2000 at 23:05:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 13, 2000 at 20:57:12, Bradley Woodward wrote: >> >>>On February 13, 2000 at 17:48:35, John Kilkenny wrote: >>> >>>> No attack, Just answr the question dude. His name is brought up because he >>>>is the most ardent supporter of the anti comp GM campaign. Also in the minds of >>>>many, he holds sway over the minds of the uneducated bretheren of chess. We >>>>fight for the release of those minds :). >>> >>>I just had a look at the 'best c' list on ICC. That's the list that shows the >>>top 20 human and computer players. Out of the 20 in the blitz list, only three >>>are computers. This is a big difference from a while ago. Ferret plows in at >>>#2, throwing my otherwards cool point into a spin. But you get that. >> >> >>I believe that had ferret been active over the past few months, its rating >>would have dropped significantly as well. I think it might be the best thing >>on ICC, but there are a lot of new players there, using faster and faster >>hardware, with strong programs. None of us are +400 over the commercial >>programs, even with a fairly significant hardware advantage. This 'advantage' >>is almost gone now, with the super-G lonnies has actually being faster than my >>quad xeon by 30% (factoring in SMP overhead). > >Seems to me that GMs are winning back some ground. There was a time computers >nearly "owned" blitz. Computers have gone a good deal faster/stronger since >then, but and still only 3 C's in the top 20 Blitz? In a while there will be no >C at all :-) And that's Blitz... > > Shhh... do you want the 'computers are unbeatable GM players' group on your case too? :) > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>My opinion is that computers rule blitz and standard games. 30/0 has been owned >>>by silicion for a while, and now it seems that 60/0 has fallen too. >>> >>>As a geek and a terrible chess player, I look to computers to visit revenge on >>>those better than me. Call me petty and shallow - I can take it. >>> >>>Before I start telling my co-workers and friends that GMs are a doomed species, >>>I'll need more than a few 60/0 games. But we're very close. Just look at >>>Rebel. It's winning some games from GMs at 40/2 - go Ed! But it's losing quite >>>a few too, sometimes to mistakes and bad judgement that GMs just do not make, >>>and that I believe is Bob's point. >>> >>>I must add, that the 'best c' list in standard is 100% human.
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