Author: Bas Hamstra
Date: 06:49:53 02/14/00
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On February 13, 2000 at 23:05:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 13, 2000 at 20:57:12, Bradley Woodward wrote: > >>On February 13, 2000 at 17:48:35, John Kilkenny wrote: >> >>> No attack, Just answr the question dude. His name is brought up because he >>>is the most ardent supporter of the anti comp GM campaign. Also in the minds of >>>many, he holds sway over the minds of the uneducated bretheren of chess. We >>>fight for the release of those minds :). >> >>I just had a look at the 'best c' list on ICC. That's the list that shows the >>top 20 human and computer players. Out of the 20 in the blitz list, only three >>are computers. This is a big difference from a while ago. Ferret plows in at >>#2, throwing my otherwards cool point into a spin. But you get that. > > >I believe that had ferret been active over the past few months, its rating >would have dropped significantly as well. I think it might be the best thing >on ICC, but there are a lot of new players there, using faster and faster >hardware, with strong programs. None of us are +400 over the commercial >programs, even with a fairly significant hardware advantage. This 'advantage' >is almost gone now, with the super-G lonnies has actually being faster than my >quad xeon by 30% (factoring in SMP overhead). Seems to me that GMs are winning back some ground. There was a time computers nearly "owned" blitz. Computers have gone a good deal faster/stronger since then, but and still only 3 C's in the top 20 Blitz? In a while there will be no C at all :-) And that's Blitz... > > > > >> >>My opinion is that computers rule blitz and standard games. 30/0 has been owned >>by silicion for a while, and now it seems that 60/0 has fallen too. >> >>As a geek and a terrible chess player, I look to computers to visit revenge on >>those better than me. Call me petty and shallow - I can take it. >> >>Before I start telling my co-workers and friends that GMs are a doomed species, >>I'll need more than a few 60/0 games. But we're very close. Just look at >>Rebel. It's winning some games from GMs at 40/2 - go Ed! But it's losing quite >>a few too, sometimes to mistakes and bad judgement that GMs just do not make, >>and that I believe is Bob's point. >> >>I must add, that the 'best c' list in standard is 100% human.
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