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Subject: Re: J6 eliminats Illescas- What does Hyatt have to say?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:05:27 02/13/00

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On February 13, 2000 at 20:57:12, Bradley Woodward wrote:

>On February 13, 2000 at 17:48:35, John Kilkenny wrote:
>
>>  No attack,  Just answr the question dude.  His name is brought up because he
>>is the most ardent supporter of the anti comp GM campaign.  Also in the minds of
>>many, he holds sway over the minds of the uneducated bretheren of chess.  We
>>fight for the release of those minds :).
>
>I just had a look at the 'best c' list on ICC.  That's the list that shows the
>top 20 human and computer players.  Out of the 20 in the blitz list, only three
>are computers.  This is a big difference from a while ago.  Ferret plows in at
>#2, throwing my otherwards cool point into a spin.  But you get that.


I believe that had ferret been active over the past few months, its rating
would have dropped significantly as well.  I think it might be the best thing
on ICC, but there are a lot of new players there, using faster and faster
hardware, with strong programs.  None of us are +400 over the commercial
programs, even with a fairly significant hardware advantage.  This 'advantage'
is almost gone now, with the super-G lonnies has actually being faster than my
quad xeon by 30% (factoring in SMP overhead).




>
>My opinion is that computers rule blitz and standard games.  30/0 has been owned
>by silicion for a while, and now it seems that 60/0 has fallen too.
>
>As a geek and a terrible chess player, I look to computers to visit revenge on
>those better than me.  Call me petty and shallow - I can take it.
>
>Before I start telling my co-workers and friends that GMs are a doomed species,
>I'll need more than a few 60/0 games.  But we're very close.  Just look at
>Rebel.  It's winning some games from GMs at 40/2 - go Ed!  But it's losing quite
>a few too, sometimes to mistakes and bad judgement that GMs just do not make,
>and that I believe is Bob's point.
>
>I must add, that the 'best c' list in standard is 100% human.



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