Author: blass uri
Date: 16:08:21 04/24/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 16:56:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 24, 2000 at 16:50:01, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>On April 24, 2000 at 16:06:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2000 at 15:01:22, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>I'm not sure I am a respectable chess programmer, but I want to ask something: >>>> >>>>Why is Crafty's management of pondering supposed to be superior to Fritz'? >>>> >>>>Why is pondering=off supposed to handicap Crafty more than Fritz? >>>> >>>>Who can seriously believe that Frans Morsch is so lousy that he cannot take >>>>advantage of pondering as well as Bob does? >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>>> >>>Your question is _bass-ackward_ in it's phrasing. It should be "who would not >>>believe that Frans has spent more time testing with ponder=off than bob has, >>>so that it isn't a surprise that fritz probably does a better job of allocating >>>time in that mode than crafty does?" >>> >>>_that_ is the point. Not that I am better with ponder=on. That I am _worse_ >>>with ponder = off. How hard is that to understand??? >>> >>> >> >> >>What makes you think that Frans Morsch would spend his time on a futile thing >>such as testing his program with ponder=off? You yourself stated that testing >>your program with ponder=off is a waste of time, so I simply can't see why Frans >>would care to waste _his_ time. And, if you are 'not better with ponder=on, and >>are worse with ponder=off', what is the inference to be drawn? > > > > >trivial to answer, when you think about it. Why would he spend any time on >_anything_ other than the 'engine' itself? Perhaps because he is the author of >a commercial program? Why have the commercial programmers spent so much time >tweaking and tuning for SSDF play? To make their program look better than the >others, for a marketing edge? If you knew that lots of people wre going to be >playing games on one computer, using your program, would _you_ spend time to >make it play as strongly as possible to keep that marketing edge? I do not think that Frans Morsch cares about engine-engine games otherwise he could prevent fritz to lose on time by telling it not to use big hash tables on time trouble. The fact that Frans Morsch did not do it convince me that he does not care much about blitz results that is the most common engine-engine games. The fact that many users do many engine-engine games on one computer does not say that they buy programs based on the results of engine-engine games. They do it usually because they like to watch comp-comp games and not to tell friends which program to buy. Uri
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