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Subject: Re: "Effectively" Comp GM strength question is answered!

Author: Drazen Marovic

Date: 22:59:21 07/14/00

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Listen I AM  a GM!!  and have probably been playing chess longer than you have
been alive i have played and beaten some of the best in the world when they were
the best.  I know something that you will never know, i KNOW what GM strength
is.  Since you don't know you really have no need to argue it is you who are
wrong.
>On July 14, 2000 at 19:22:16, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>On July 14, 2000 at 19:00:32, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>On July 14, 2000 at 18:40:10, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Scientifically is a comp GM strength?  According to some here no, though i'm
>>>>not convinced of that oppinion either.
>>>
>>>Science has nothing to do with opinion.
>>
>>Apparently reading has nothing to do with understanding either!  It is an
>>oppinion currently as to whether their is enough evidence to say scientifically
>>if a comp is GM strength.
>
>Fortunately, science has no need of opinions.  It can ride squarely on the back
>of mathematics.  It uses things called "Hypotheses" and if they are testable and
>verifiable we can call the outcome a conclusion.
>
>>Further again this term of "GM strength"  Does it
>>merely mean a statistical result or is it really more substantive to refer to
>>qaulity of play!  If your average bootom of the barrel 2500 GM played in 3 round
>>robin 10 game events with Kasparov anand And Kramnik The bottom of the barrel
>>2500 GM would probably most likely not get his GM Norm much less get the 3
>>required. That would not necessarily mean that he didn't demonstrate "GM
>>strength" play.  Geesh the current world champion is barely going to get a GM
>>norm in Dortmund and Kasparov isn't even there!
>
>Ah.  The "They feel like GM performaces" argument.  You're in good company
>because a lot of people agree with you.  I would hazard a guess that most of
>them do.  If you took a poll, they would probably make you think you knew what
>you are talking about, because you will win the poll.  Nevertheless, you're
>wrong.
>
>>There's not enough statistical evidence
>>>to support the Junior GM claim and that's it. But by all means, take a vote.
>>>Then Junior would be a democratic GM instead of an actual GM. I would vote for
>>>it, if it had a built-in espresso machine. Sadly, it doesn't.
>>>
>>>Best wishes...
>>>Mogens



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