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Subject: Re: Once again Dr. Hyatt is right on--He is a dispassionate observer.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:41:01 10/05/00

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On October 05, 2000 at 15:15:08, Chessfun wrote:

>On October 05, 2000 at 14:38:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>Please pay _careful_ attention:  Tiger beta testing has been going on for
>>some while.  The word "beta" was intentionally used.  As I also said later,
>>I was unaware that "tiger beta" and "gambit tiger beta" were two different
>>things.  My statement is _still_ 100% correct.  Your understanding of it is
>>lacking, however.
>>
>>Would you like a precise count of the number of games vs tiger beta that Crafty
>>has played on chess.net, fics, and ICC?
>
>
>As will be apparent further down. Your understanding of Tiger Beta
>compared to Tiger is wrong. Making your "hundereds of games" statement
>false.
>
>
>>That shows your ignorance.  Ask any of the following players if they have
>>been noplayed, and how many games they have played against Crafty over the past
>>week:
>>
>>KyFats: 35
>>BountyHunter: 26
>>CChess: 52
>>KillerMachine: 7
>
>Then I assume you will read the following and confirm your own ignorance?
>
>KYFATS
>1: ChessPartner 4.3/ChessTiger 12.0e(modified)
>NOT TIGER BETA
>
>Cchess
>Is only at Chessnet and FICS.

What is your point here?  I played him on chess.net.  A few games each and every
day last time I looked.



>
>BountyHunter
>1: Programs are Genius 6.5, Shredder 4, and RebelTiger.
>NOTE. This is _NOT_ a beta program.
>
>
>KillerMachine
>3: Chess Program Currently Running: ChessTiger 12.0 (Rebel-Tiger)
>NOT TIGER BETA
>
>One out of Four....hmmmm

As I clearly pointed out, I picked the ones that were easy to remember.
Subtleone is another one that is running tiger beta.  There are a few
others.  I don't make a point of remembering handles.  I do make a point
that I don't noplay tiger or tiger beta programs unless they violate my
finger notes, contrary to what you have claimed.




>
>
>>Those were played in the last 2 weeks.  Others are using tiger as well but
>>they have disabled the kibitz, and I don't feel like taking the time to
>>track them down.  Does the above add up to over a hundred?  Without really
>>trying?  So would you like to re-think your statement and perhaps retract
>>it since it is easy to shoot it down as wrong?
>
>Does the above one account cchess add up to not over a "HUNDRED"
>but the word used "HUNREDS"
>
>So would you like to re-think your statement and perhaps retract
>it since it is easy to shoot it down as wrong?

Why don't you simply contact _all_ the tiger beta testers, and ask them how
many games they have played vs Crafty on the three servers?  And when I say
"crafty" I don't only mean the server handle crafty, but all the others that
are running Crafty as well, like singacrafty, etc...





>
>
>>I picked 4 tiger players that stuck out.  There are others.  I believe that
>>Albert is testing as well.  So yes, I have seen _hundreds_ of games.
>
>
>Albert may be playing now you removed him from your no play list.
>But _NO_ you have not seen "hundreds of games".
>
>
>>If they can't get within 200 points, that is _my_ problem?  The ones that are
>>rated as high or higher do _not_ play Crafty of their own choosing.  Wonder why
>>that is?
>
>Maybe Intel SC450NX quad xeon/550mhz, 512mb RAM, 5X9 10K LVDS disks,
>would have something to do with it. But seriously the high rated acounts
>would play you if they weren't concerned about getting noplayed as a
>result of your notes. And from what I see most do play you whenever they
>get the chance.
>
>But pray tell....Why do you think they don't play Crafty?.

Because _they_ understand statistics.  And _they_ know that if they are 200
rating points higher, they will _not_ win over 3 of every 4 games.  ANd their
rating will go _down_.

Just as surely as they know that if they are rated 200 points or more below
crafty, crafty will not win 3 of every four games, and their rating will go
_up_.

Computer operators are pretty good at picking their opponents...  of not
playing the same 400-rating-point-worse IM over and over, etc...



>
>>>Crafty has that rating because of it's processor and it's restrictive
>>>policy. If it was open to play computers within 400 that rating would
>>>fall significantly. And since as pointed out above it isn't actually
>>>playing very often the only logic to it is rating protection.
>>
>>Consider your psychic abilities on a par with the rest of your comments.
>>
>>IE worthless.
>
>
>Thanks for sharing another Hyattism.
>
>Sarah.

thanks for sharing nothing new...



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