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Subject: Re: all time greats

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:16:05 11/04/00

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On November 04, 2000 at 06:10:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On November 04, 2000 at 03:51:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:47:04, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:00:04, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>
>>>>>By your definition I would say that Richard Lang's programs between 1985 and
>>>>>1992 are the all time greats.
>>>>>
>>>>>They are still an incredible challenge to many amateur programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>I totally agree. We have benefacted from the experience of earlier acheivements,
>>>>just as the rest of the world has.
>>>>
>>>>To say that today's programs are the best of all-time, is a slap in the face of
>>>>the older generation of programs. Nothing has been proved. Today's standard are
>>>>so much higher than they were back then. There is really no comparison.
>>>
>>>Most important thing is processor speed / memory sizes programs were
>>>written/debugged and intended to run. For me all time greatest is definitely
>>>Genius. Get a 486/33Mhz and try it against any of todays top programs. I put my
>>>money on Genius...
>>>
>>>-Andrew-
>>
>>I suggest that you try 4 minutes/40 moves on fast hardware that is eqvivalent to
>>120 minutes/40 moves on 486/33Mhz.
>>
>>I guess that Genius is going to lose against Gambittiger or Fritz6a.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I tried it 2 or 3 years ago on equal hardware and Genius lost to the top
>programs of these times quite badly. I think that Genius was also one of the
>secret machines tested by the SSDF and came out over 100 Elo points under the
>top.
>
>Enrique

Which Genius did you use?

I suspect that Genius3 is better than other versions at blitz but I do not know.
I bought Genius3 because it beated kasparov at 25 minutes per game.

I did not buy later versions because they had no good results to convince me to
buy them.

Uri



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