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Subject: Re: Possible match between Chessmaster 8000, Rebel Tiger 13. 4-Daniel

Author: John Merlino

Date: 20:28:08 11/10/00

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On November 10, 2000 at 20:51:03, Chessfun wrote:

>On November 10, 2000 at 14:54:36, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On November 10, 2000 at 05:49:58, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On November 10, 2000 at 01:24:38, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 20:39:27, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 08:33:32, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would like to know the following things:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is Rebel Tiger 13 winboard compatible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Since Chessmaster 8000 is winboard compatible, secondary time control features
>>>>>>>are avaiable right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes Rebel Tiger is winboard compatitble. In fact, I have close to 25 engines
>>>>>>currently in the ChessPartner interface ( Same interface as Rebel Tiger ).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This is kinda misleading as Daniel wants to know if he can play both these
>>>>>programs automatically. To which the answer is no.
>>>>>
>>>>>You will neither be able to run CM8K inside of Rebel (CP5) nor run ChessTiger
>>>>>13.0 inside of the CM8K. In both cases neither program has a winboard engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the case of both programs you can run a winboard engine. In the case of the
>>>>>CM apparently you will be able to play CM v a Winboard eng. In the case of
>>>>>ChessTiger you will not be able to as it will only load one engine alone. You
>>>>>will not be able in CP5 Interface to play say ChessTiger 13.0 v a winboard eng.
>>>>>
>>>>>This may be possible using A232 on a single computer connected to 2 com ports
>>>>>and running two instances of the program however I myself have not tried it to
>>>>>confirm this can be done.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lastly trying to run automatically ChessTiger 13.0 v CM8K on a single computer
>>>>>automatically through two com ports will not work as the CM don't support
>>>>>auto232. Therefore it can only be done manually.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Remi Coulom has written a program that disguise itself as a Winboard engine but
>>>>actually is just an open port to a distant engine thru Auto232.
>>>>
>>>>By using this "engine" in CM8000, it is maybe possible to make it artificially
>>>>compatible with Auto232.
>>>>
>>>>And one can even dream that it could work on one computer with COM1 connected to
>>>>COM2, and would allow CM8000 to play against Tiger13 on one computer.
>>>>
>>>>At least it is worth a good try...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>You are correct. Attempts will be made to try to autoplay the CM.
>>>Another possibility is through the internet or using Ebbi's autoplayer.
>>>
>>>Both Remi's and Ebbi's made it possible to auto232 Winboard and other
>>>programs which were not designed to comply with auto232.
>>>
>>>I never mentioned it at this point as with even CM7K I'm not sure what
>>>the actual engine file is called as it don't appear as clearcut as with
>>>other programs.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>>Prior to CM8000, the engine did not exist as a separate file. It was given to
>>the development team as a "lib" file that was statically linked into the
>>Chessmaster EXE file. That is why you couldn't find "the engine file".
>>
>>jm
>
>John,
>    Does that mean I will be able to find an engine file in CM8K.
>Assuming yes then the possibilites of autoplaying are very good !!.
>
>Sarah.

Since everything is WinBoard in CM8K, there is a separate engine file now, and
it is called "The King.exe". However, there is quite a bit of security code to
ensure that the engine program is not used outside Chessmaster. I don't know if
the auto232 program needs to be "in control" or if it, as someone has suggested,
can be imported as a "personality". This all remains to be seen, but I'm keeping
my hopes up that one of you more intelligent and persistent folks will figure it
out.

jm




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