Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 08:51:07 04/15/01
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On April 15, 2001 at 09:30:28, Chessfun wrote: >On April 15, 2001 at 05:32:48, Mogens Larsen wrote: > >>On April 14, 2001 at 21:54:01, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>If the organizers wish to use SMP 8 cpu's IMO there are only 4 choices. >>>Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder and SMP Crafty. >>>Crafty performs very well in the human comp area check out ICC sometime. >>> >>>There is time to run a tournament which will determine which program comp >>>v comp is stronger. This will not tell us which will do better against a human, >>>but under the assumption that organizing an event in which humans also play >>>isn't viable due to time limitations, it's the best we have. >>> >>>And as it would be a comp v comp comparison I would change to Deep Fritz v Deep >>>Junior as Shredder will not meet the conditions and Crafty will not win such a >>>comp v comp match IMO. >> >>That is nonsensical IMO. Then the purpose of the "qualification" round has >>already been fulfilled. The choice boils down to a ChessBase product in the end, >>which is hardly in the spirit of such a contest. Especially since it's taking >>place in closed quarters. Not very glamourous or fair to say the least. > > >There are only a few SMP capable programs and setting up a tournament in public >requires organization, time and money. An organization in this case that don't >exist, so no time nor money. > > >>No, the smartest thing to do would be to make a deadline for entry of SMP >>capable programs (and there are more than the ones you mention, even without >>your personal selection process), arrange a contest in public (maybe a >>University with capable and identical machinery) and find the challenger with a >>reasonable tournament format. I'm sure Millennium and others would pay if the >>openness of the event was secured. > > >From what I read at Millennium I don't think they are open to playing any >type of qualifying event. > > >>This is the best way to handle a competition of this nature. High entrance fees, >>strange screening processes and secrecy is not. I'm surprised that you find a >>tournament run by Enrique to be a reasonable solution. It's an amateur >>arrangement at best. > > >I think in the case, Kramnik has control and regardless the program needs >to be selected as quickly as possible before the possibility of the match fades >out. I see nothing wrong with a tourney being run by an outside party to >determine which program is best. Whether the arrangement be termed amateur or >not Enrique presents them in a very professional way. > >Sarah. Hi Sarah, You are forgetting an important issue, not mentioned yet in this discussion. Whenever I have to put $5000 on the table the least thing I want to have is the full responsibility for that. The idea to donate $5000 and then wait for the message, "you have won" or "you have lost" isn't exactly appealing. What I want for the money is my own chosen operator, my own book, optimal hardware, my own settings. In case I fail to qualify I can only blame myself because I was there. It is a not a matter of mistrust, but just being professional in what you do. Ed
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