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Subject: Re: Latest millenium news?

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 08:51:07 04/15/01

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On April 15, 2001 at 09:30:28, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 15, 2001 at 05:32:48, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:54:01, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>If the organizers wish to use SMP 8 cpu's IMO there are only 4 choices.
>>>Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder and SMP Crafty.
>>>Crafty performs very well in the human comp area check out ICC sometime.
>>>
>>>There is time to run a tournament which will determine which program comp
>>>v comp is stronger. This will not tell us which will do better against a human,
>>>but under the assumption that organizing an event in which humans also play
>>>isn't viable due to time limitations, it's the best we have.
>>>
>>>And as it would be a comp v comp comparison I would change to Deep Fritz v Deep
>>>Junior as Shredder will not meet the conditions and Crafty will not win such a
>>>comp v comp match IMO.
>>
>>That is nonsensical IMO. Then the purpose of the "qualification" round has
>>already been fulfilled. The choice boils down to a ChessBase product in the end,
>>which is hardly in the spirit of such a contest. Especially since it's taking
>>place in closed quarters. Not very glamourous or fair to say the least.
>
>
>There are only a few SMP capable programs and setting up a tournament in public
>requires organization, time and money. An organization in this case that don't
>exist, so no time nor money.
>
>
>>No, the smartest thing to do would be to make a deadline for entry of SMP
>>capable programs (and there are more than the ones you mention, even without
>>your personal selection process), arrange a contest in public (maybe a
>>University with capable and identical machinery) and find the challenger with a
>>reasonable tournament format. I'm sure Millennium and others would pay if the
>>openness of the event was secured.
>
>
>From what I read at Millennium I don't think they are open to playing any
>type of qualifying event.
>
>
>>This is the best way to handle a competition of this nature. High entrance fees,
>>strange screening processes and secrecy is not. I'm surprised that you find a
>>tournament run by Enrique to be a reasonable solution. It's an amateur
>>arrangement at best.
>
>
>I think in the case, Kramnik has control and regardless the program needs
>to be selected as quickly as possible before the possibility of the match fades
>out. I see nothing wrong with a tourney being run by an outside party to
>determine which program is best. Whether the arrangement be termed amateur or
>not Enrique presents them in a very professional way.
>
>Sarah.


Hi Sarah,

You are forgetting an important issue, not mentioned yet in this discussion.

Whenever I have to put $5000 on the table the least thing I want to have is
the full responsibility for that. The idea to donate $5000 and then wait for
the message, "you have won" or "you have lost" isn't exactly appealing.

What I want for the money is my own chosen operator, my own book, optimal
hardware, my own settings. In case I fail to qualify I can only blame myself
because I was there.

It is a not a matter of mistrust, but just being professional in what you do.

Ed



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