Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:37:20 05/02/01
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On May 02, 2001 at 15:27:33, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On May 02, 2001 at 14:52:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 02, 2001 at 13:48:04, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>I would like to hear from the CCC group how much K will >>>gain from having the program for 3 months. In my view, >>>an advantage yes, but maybe not as much as I thought at >>>first. >>> >>>1. K may not have the HW for the match. >> >>That is irrelevant. That only means that the program will be a bit >>stronger tactically. But it does _not_ affect the knowledge at all. >>If it doesn't understand that a pair of isolated passers are stronger >>than a pair of connected passers in a king and pawn ending, then no >>amount of hardware is going to teach the program that, and he will >>find out such shortcomings quite easily. And in significant numbers. >> >>>2. To get a real feel for Fritz 7 he will need the HW and >>> play 40/2 games. >> >> >>Not at all. Any GM I know can play blitz games and determine program >>weaknesses. The weaknesses are there whether it is blitz or not. The >>tactical weaknesses are not important as more time or faster hardware >>will help hide them. But positional weaknesses are a lifetime (of the >>program) problem. >> >> >> >> >> >>>3. K has to prepare for other opponents for matches and >>> tournaments, I think this will be a higher priority for K. >> >> >>With a million dollar prize? think about that for a minute then think >>about your statement. What other tournament will produce a prize fund >>that large? >> >> >> >> >> >>>4. K has other commitments than just matches and tournaments that >>> will also be a higher priority. >> >>All I need to say is $1,000,000.00... that is a _very_ big priority for >>_anybody_. It is a life-changing sum of money. >> >> >> >> >>>5. K may gain a sense of how Fritz should play at any given time, >>> and may be over confident by match time. >> >> >>That's stretching way too far. >> >> >> >>> >>>None of the above are guaranteed, but in my opinion, lots of games at >>>fast time controls is not the same as 40/2 on the real HW. Also, my >>>guess is that K will play some each week against what ever version of >>>Fritz he gets, but each will be slightly different (ala play different >>>versions of crafty with slightly different books) and not the same. >>> >>>Any thoughts. >>> >>>I do think this gives K a huge advantage, I am just not sure he will >>>have the time to fully utilize it. Just some thoughts. ;) >> >> >>If I were going to play a computer for $1,000,000.00 that is _all_ I would >>think about for the next 3 months. Because after winning that event, I could >>retire, live off of the interest, and fish the rest of my life without having >>to worry about anything. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>My guess now: K wins 6.5-3.5 with a couple of surprises by both >>>and a couple of blunders by both. ;) >> >>I would hope Fritz wins a game or two, but you never know. With 3 months >>to practice against the version he will play against, a win or two by Fritz >>would be considered a tremendous moral victory. It could easily end up with >>zero wins and draws if he is careful. >> >> >>>Best Regards, >>>Chris Carson > >As carefull as Kramnik was in the last Championship Match against previous World >Champion Gari Kasparov he still could not avoided Blundering a few moves. >Even if Kramnik discover a few weaknesses from playing practice games against >Deep Fritz 3 months prior, he will still blunders, since it is a human nature to >blunder under pressure. When Deep Junior and Deep Fritz were being used to >analyze every moves made by Kasparov and Kramnik during the World Championship >there were severals blunders made by both during their match, in which if they >were playing against any of these two programs they would have been punished > >Pichard. I would bet half the "blunders" they found were not blunders. IE all programs thought Shirov had blundered with the Bh3 move he played a couple of years ago, yet it was a forced win. It just shows that the programs don't understand any- where near "everything" yet. Yes he will make mistakes. But if he plays the right kinds of openings, the mistakes won't lose.
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