Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 14:50:28 05/29/01
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On May 28, 2001 at 23:29:52, Dann Corbit wrote: >On May 28, 2001 at 21:42:57, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On May 28, 2001 at 19:42:37, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>Play 'em that way if you want to. >>> >>>Silly to remove 80% of a program's strength. >>> >>>But that's just my opinion. >> >> >>First Dan you don't decrease the engine strength one iota, you know that. > >No but it does have an incredible impact on PROGRAM strength. > Of course it does, did I state otherwise? To me the _engine_ is to a complete chess programm as a CPU is to a _computer_ it is the fundamental corner stone, to build around. >> This is to test the _engine_ not a combination of engine and book. > >Then be my guest. I guess many top experts, testers and programmers have been, you must be a great host!;) > >>Now I'll have to do some digging to find Alan Tomalty's article back in 1987 >>or 88, of "Komputer Korner" fame, but he, a tester for many years recommended >>to turn off _book_ and pondering to test 'engine' strength in tournaments. > Darn I still need to find that article! lol > What about endgame tablebase files? What about internal data files? >DarkThought has all tablebase files in ram, for example. Well can you switch them off? Anyways, I think it's good to know if not more so the middlegame ability. IMO Also the ability to handle openings as well as endings on it's own says something for the engine as well. > >>It _is_ important to know the strength of an engine even before you add >>books, databases etc. > >Not to me. Maybe to others. I just want to know how well it plays chess. > Well if the engine is only mediocre but plays great with all the *add ons" how much better if it's a *great* engine? >>Then you can optimize the whole programm, utilizing books and so on. > >You can optimize the program any way that you want to. Of course, what's what's your point? > >>I concur with Alan Tomalty's concept completely, if you want to know engine >>strength alone. > >Then test that way. Makes no difference to me how others do it. I think it >foolish for them to try an impose their will on me, however. I think it's foolish if you think I or anyone else is trying to impose their will on you!;) I'm sharing a pov that's all. If you don't agree, your free not too:) Terry
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