Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 21:01:19 06/12/01
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On June 12, 2001 at 22:50:01, James T. Walker wrote:
>On June 12, 2001 at 20:54:16, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On June 12, 2001 at 18:41:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On June 12, 2001 at 14:48:10, Thoralf Karlsson wrote:
>>>
>>>> THE SSDF RATING LIST 2001-06-11 79042 games played by 219 computers
>>>> Rating + - Games Won Oppo
>>>> ------ --- --- ----- --- ----
>>>> 1 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2653 29 -28 647 64% 2551
>>>> 2 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2650 43 -40 302 67% 2528
>>>> 3 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2632 43 -40 308 67% 2508
>>>> 4 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2623 23 -23 968 64% 2520
>>>> 5 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2596 20 -20 1230 62% 2509
>>>> 6 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2576 26 -26 733 61% 2499
>>>> 7 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2551 25 -25 804 58% 2496
>>>> 8 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2550 24 -23 897 58% 2491
>>>> 9 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2542 28 -28 612 54% 2511
>>>> 10 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2534 25 -25 790 58% 2478
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Congratulations to Frans Morsch and Mathias Feist (and the ChessBase team).
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz is definitely a very tough client. You cannot lead the SSDF list by
>>>accident, and leading it for so many years in a row is probably the best
>>>achievement of a chess program of all times.
>>>
>>>If you want to sum up the history of chess programs for microcomputers, I think
>>>you just need to remember 3 names:
>>>* Richard Lang
>>>* Frans Morsch and Mathias Feist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>
>>The roarng absence of the name Christophe, appears of course, in the signature
>>of the post.
>>But I have a little question. Does Deep Fritz have any advantage in the testing
>>e.g. the fact that it already stood at the top, long before the recent GT even
>>arrived on the scene, and so may have had an advantageous starting point?
>>S.Taylor
>
>Hello Stuart,
>I believe that is a valid question. I would like to know the answer. I would
>like to know if the SSDF "Zeros out" the book learning of say Deep Fritz before
>starting a match with Gambit Tiger when Gambit Tiger is brand new? I still
>think the SSDF list is quesionable because of the differences in opponents each
>program has to face. I'm sure it's better than nothing but I sure wouldn't like
>to hang my hat on a 3 point difference in SSDF ratings (or even 20 points for
>that matter).
>Jim
I don't question the reliability of the list.
It is the most reliable tool that we have to evaluate the chess programs. The
difference in the opponents each program has to face does not matter from a
mathematical point of view.
Year after year we can see that the list is reliable. Almost all objections get
refuted, little by little. Of course it is not absolutely perfect, but I think
it's damn good.
Christophe
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